Ban the burkha ?

Originally Posted by papa smurf

muslim is not a race .

you know what i mean

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Some of the comments l have read on this thread are stupid, the Burka should be banned, for the simple reason, that is can be 'threatening' to people, today l saw ten of them waiting for a bus, and you could not see there face,

I read an article by a muslim, that there is no rule in there book, that says they must wear it, and she feels that the burka, should be banned, and that is from a muslim woman.

[Escapee]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

Actually I don't want ANY item of clothing banned.The clothing used in criminal activities aren't any more responsible than the baseball bat is responsible for some idiot smashing it over someone's head.

Shops and garages ban certain items being worn for the safet of their employees. What are your thoughts on a shop including the Burkha to the list of items that are not allowed to be worn due to safety reasons, because they conceal the face the same as the crash helmet, balaclava and hoodie?

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

muslim is not a race .

It is when there are 72 virgins waiting

Originally Posted by Escapee

Shops and garages ban certain items being worn for the safet of their employees. What are your thoughts on a shop including the Burkha to the list of items that are not allowed to be worn due to safety reasons, because they conceal the face the same as the crash helmet, balaclava and hoodie?


or get trapped in the lift or revolving door

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It is when there are 72 virgins waiting

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Some of the comments l have read on this thread are stupid, the Burka should be banned, for the simple reason, that is can be 'threatening' to people, today l saw ten of them waiting for a bus, and you could not see there face,

I always get them to say cheese for the camera Arthur. the one that's reluctant you keep an eye on her. or him

[sollp]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

No you lot just don't like your prejudices being challenged..and the Naked Rambler is just the opposite side of a ridiculous argument that everyone who hides their face is a terrorist.

Who said they are all terrorist's, no one has said that except yourself.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Some of the comments l have read on this thread are stupid, the Burka should be banned, for the simple reason, that is can be 'threatening' to people, today l saw ten of them waiting for a bus, and you could not see there face,

Sorry ... you felt threatened by a group of middle-aged women you saw waiting at the bus stop?

What are you, a man or a mouse?

Originally Posted by Maggy J

Name anyone has been attacked and killed in this country by anyone wearing a burkha at the time.

Originally Posted by papa smurf

does attempted murder count

Point of information - he wasn't wearing a burqa at the time. he tried to set off the bomb; he wore one later when trying to escape

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Originally Posted by Gary L

you can claim racism if you're a different shade to the offender

Even for you, that's complete bolleaux. (and having a smiley on the end doesn't make it, or you, less offensive).

[Raistlin]

I can't believe I even bothered opening this thread to read it, I should have known better.....

[Tony.]

This is an interesting read

http://www.islam-watch.org/M.Hussain...im-Denials.htm

The part the worries me is this

It is indeed a fact that wearing the burka (not the more liberal hijab) is a religious duty for Muslim women commanded by Allah. The Quran [24:31] commands Muslim women to “draw their veils over their bosoms� so as not to expose their physical assets to unrelated people. Allah says [Quran 33:59]: “O Prophet! Tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of the believers [Muslims] to draw their cloaks close round them (when they go abroad).

So much for 'Muslims have a choice' then

When I was growing up as a Muslim, my religious teachers at my school and madrasa used to tell us that a righteous Muslim parent must ask his or her children to follow their religious duties at the age of eight and pressure them at the age of ten. If they continue to refuse, beat them at the age of twelve. In many Muslim countries not all parents apply this protocol rigorously, but it remains a widely accepted guide. Some parents do follow it closely in order to bring their disobedient children onto the righteous path. As a result, injuries and even deaths occur, like Aqsa's. These injuries and deaths can in no way be separated from the Islamic religion.

Originally Posted by Chris

Sorry ... you felt threatened by a group of middle-aged women you saw waiting at the bus stop?

What are you, a man or a mouse?

Why not, Chris?

If you cannot tell if they are a woman or indeed a man and there are ten of them, why is it unnatural to feel threatened?

What is to say that Arthur was not on the way back from the bank with a considerable sum of cash for example?

If I was in that scenario, I would certainly feel uneasy.



(awaits being beaten down by your much better debating skillz)

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

Even for you, that's complete bolleaux. (and having a smiley on the end doesn't make it, or you, less offensive).

Why? do you have to be a completely different colour?
People play the offensive card as much as the race card. almost overtaking the where there's blame theirs a claim card.

[rogerdraig]

maybe they should ban police uniforms first

http://www.themissinglist.co.uk/poli...ly-bournemouth

http://www.themissinglist.co.uk/poli...drive-sleaford

http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/47..._teenage_girl/

http://www.northantset.co.uk/news/Bo...-on.5912240.jp

i realy cant see that the burka is any more of a threat to security or non identification than many other more used methods the main one of which is just plain old confidence in what you are doing

would you be forcing transvestites to reveal they are men at the shop ?

and even realy for all make up to be removed

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...s-1771350.html

if i was a muslim intent on blowing up a super market i think i would arive as a white bnp member

Originally Posted by Tony.

This is an interesting read

http://www.islam-watch.org/M.Hussain...im-Denials.htm

The part the worries me is this



So much for 'Muslims have a choice' then

yeah and this is what that verse actually says

[24:31] And tell the believing women to subdue their eyes, and maintain their chastity. They shall not reveal any parts of their bodies, except that which is necessary. They shall cover their chests, and shall not relax this code in the presence of other than their husbands, their fathers, the fathers of their husbands, their sons, the sons of their husbands, their brothers, the sons of their brothers, the sons of their sisters, other women, the male servants or employees whose sexual drive has been nullified, or the children who have not reached puberty. They shall not strike their feet when they walk in order to shake and reveal certain details of their bodies. All of you shall repent to GOD, O you believers, that you may succeed.


spot the difference

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Tony.

So much for 'Muslims have a choice' then

There are strict Muslims. but then you have some that just want to be 'normal'
I'd say personally that it's the teenage girls that want to be normal.