Football : Season 2009/2010 - Page 95

Arthurgray50@blu · 09-01-2010, 22:21

Well if the authorities did there jobs properly, and stopped sitting in the nearby cafe, and following health and safety rules, then maybe the roads would be safer, and OAPs could get out of there homes properly. Its H&S GONE MAD.

sherer · 09-01-2010, 22:54

what a load of rubbish that game was.

Evans got beaten to every ball. Park had a load of chances but because he isn't good enough for this level couldn't do anything with them. We had a proven goal scorer on the bench but brought on someone who had never played before

LEE1 · 10-01-2010, 11:14

a load of games of for crowd safty and i slip on sainsburys car park why didnt h & s close them for public safty.

TheDaddy · 10-01-2010, 15:36

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a load of games of for crowd safty and i slip on sainsburys car park why didnt h & s close them for public safty.

Probably because as much as the owners would like them to, 40 000 people aren't going to turn up at Sainsbury's all at once and because food is vital, watching football despite what Shankly said isn't

Arthurgray50@blu · 10-01-2010, 20:43

I don't know wether anyone saw the Rangers cup tie on Sky, I have noticed one thing about these big clubs, The cup tie between Hamilton and Rangers was a total farce on the decision of the penalty, the Hamilton is fouled in the box, he goes down, the Rangers player kicks the ball and hits the Hamilton player's hand, and the Gers' call for a penalty and gets it. It was not intentional, it seems that the big boys get all the luck of a dodgy ref.

LondonRoad · 11-01-2010, 10:00

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

I don't know wether anyone saw the Rangers cup tie on Sky, I have noticed one thing about these big clubs, The cup tie between Hamilton and Rangers was a total farce on the decision of the penalty, the Hamilton is fouled in the box, he goes down, the Rangers player kicks the ball and hits the Hamilton player's hand, and the Gers' call for a penalty and gets it. It was not intentional, it seems that the big boys get all the luck of a dodgy ref.

I thought both penalties were soft so it probably evened itself out on the day. The Hamilton player was clearly trying to get out of the way of the ball but in that split instance the referee probably saw movement of the hand towards the ball. A bad decision but I don't think the referee was being dishonest.

Mal · 11-01-2010, 12:21

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I thought both penalties were soft so it probably evened itself out on the day. The Hamilton player was clearly trying to get out of the way of the ball but in that split instance the referee probably saw movement of the hand towards the ball. A bad decision but I don't think the referee was being dishonest.

Don't you know, only the "big" clubs get soft penalties

LondonRoad · 11-01-2010, 12:33

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Don't you know, only the "big" clubs get soft penalties

My mate will be delighted to know that the Accies are categorised as being a big club.

Russ · 11-01-2010, 13:11

United to raise Â£500m:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8451848.stm

Maybe we'll see a decent striker brought in now? And a world-class keeper?

**Damien** · 11-01-2010, 13:20

So they decided to get even more debt! I don't understand. Are they not just borrowing Â£500 million at lower interest rates to pay back some of the Â£800 million they have at higher interest rates? Which would mean none of this raises money for players. Other than decreasing interest payments which would mean less of their profits have to go to paying interest. However up until 08 Fergie was blowing more than United were earning on players. So that will probably continue...

If they are just increasing the debt then we might as well write United's future off now.

punky · 11-01-2010, 13:58

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So they decided to get even more debt! I don't understand. Are they not just borrowing Â£500 million at lower interest rates to pay back some of the Â£800 million they have at higher interest rates? Which would mean none of this raises money for players. Other than decreasing interest payments which would mean less of their profits have to go to paying interest. However up until 08 Fergie was blowing more than United were earning on players. So that will probably continue...

If they are just increasing the debt then we might as well write United's future off now.

Here is a good explanation of it all.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereport...utd_spend.html

I do feel a bit sorry for United fans over all this. Well some of them anyway. Ultimately the fans are just a pawn here and not their fault. I do find it crazy that a situation can exist where a club can buy 'itself'.

Meanwhile I read that Utaka is on Â£80k/week at Pompey. I think that alone explains a lot about their financial situation.

**Damien** · 11-01-2010, 14:04

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Here is a good explanation of it all.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereport...utd_spend.html

I do feel a bit sorry for United fans over all this. Well some of them anyway. Ultimately the fans are just a pawn here and not their fault. I do find it crazy that a situation can exist where a club can buy 'itself'.

Meanwhile I read that Utaka is on Â£80k/week at Pompey. I think that alone explains a lot about their financial situation.

The last one was funny. As a Spurs fan you should consider yourself lucky you have shrewd board members because Redknapp isn't

It's not the fans fault at United at all. I do enjoy watching them exasperated that they can't spend millions on another player though. How much did Berbatov cost? Â£30 million? Lol.

punky · 11-01-2010, 14:17

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The last one was funny. As a Spurs fan you should consider yourself lucky you have shrewd board members because Redknapp isn't

When Redknapp was at Pompey he wasn't responsible for agreeing fees or negotiating wages. That falls to Storrie (as well t a less extend Guydamak/Mandaric). It is the same at Spurs. Redknapp says who he wants and Daniel Levy secures it within the club's sustainability margins.

I know people would expect me to say this but I think Levy is the best chairman in the league. He's very shrewd, the club is run extremely healthily. Despite not much success to speak of and constant player/manager turnover the club has remained very profitable.According to Forbes, we had a higher operating income than Liverpool last year. And all this whilst delivering 2 massive training centres on time and budget and organising a complete new stadium.

Pompey would kill for someone like him right now.

**Damien** · 11-01-2010, 14:33

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Originally Posted by punky

When Redknapp was at Pompey he wasn't responsible for agreeing fees or negotiating wages. That falls to Storrie (as well t a less extend Guydamak/Mandaric). It is the same at Spurs. Redknapp says who he wants and Daniel Levy secures it within the club's sustainability margins.

Ah! Knew the situation at Spurs, didn't know the one at Portsmouth. Yet another reason to presume Storrie is inept at his job. Heaven knows why the fans at Portsmouth give him a free pass.

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I know people would expect me to say this but I think Levy is the best chairman in the league. He's very shrewd, the club is run extremely healthily. Despite not much success to speak of and player/manager turnover the club has remained very profitable.According to Forbes, we had a higher operating income than Liverpool last year. And all this whilst delivering 2 massive training centres on time and budget and organising a complete new stadium.

Heh. I would say this but I have to say Arsenal's board are up there as well!

The club has always been secure and profitable and this includes both the new stadium and subsequent move as well as the new training ground. They have stayed in the top 4 while making a profit on transfers. A lot of this is down to Wenger as well but if you look at the top teams how many of them make a profit from the transfer market? If Wenger wasn't there heaven knows where Arsenal would be now but he has had the biggest influence on Arsenal and has successfully gotten them though a difficult transition. I hope people remember that when comparing his legacy against other managers, it's not all about titles.

Maybe we could say Randy Leaner as well. Modest funding, balanced books and he even rejected shirt sponsorship to put a charity on there! Classy.

punky · 11-01-2010, 14:40

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Ah! Knew the situation at Spurs, didn't know the one at Portsmouth. Yet another reason to presume Storrie is inept at his job. Heaven knows why the fans at Portsmouth give him a free pass.

Heh. I would say this but I have to say Arsenal's board are up there as well!

The club has always been secure and profitable and this includes both the new stadium and subsequent move as well as the new training ground. They have stayed in the top 4 while making a profit on transfers. A lot of this is down to Wenger as well but if you look at the top teams how many of them make a profit from the transfer market?

Maybe we could say Randy Leaner as well. Modest funding, balanced books and he even rejected shirt sponsorship to put a charity on there! Classy.

Lerner is definitely the populist choice as Levy doesn't really ooze charisma.I was judging Levy purely on a business perspective.

Arsenal (Dein?) are responsible but I wouldn't say maverick. Wenger is shrewd in the markets (Adebayor, Toure, Viera, etc) but they never seem to have much money. They keep the club level (and delivering a stadium isn't easy) but they do have a lot more revenue than us with the Champions League.