Islamic group's plan to march through Wootton Bassett - Page 28

papa smurf · 10-01-2010, 10:56

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Originally Posted by Sirius

The problem is that the date for the march would have to have been agreed in advance however the repatriations are random if you get what i mean. They can set a date for the march but the same cannot be said for a repatriation ??

The families of the fallen should be able to have there family member return quickly and not be held up my this type of march. Hope that makes sense

i would imagine that the two events clashing would fill the hate preachers with joy ,and the ensuing riot would give them exactly what they want .

**Chris** · 10-01-2010, 10:56

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Originally Posted by Moldova

That is the reason I feel it should be banned is because the intention is to cause distress and get themselves good media coverage with the added incentive of a possible counter protest with some rioting thrown in for good measure.

The town has been deliberately chosen because of the coverage given by the media over the way the town mourns the returning fallen servicemen.

If they feel that this is a necessary march why not try doing a similar march as I have stated in a previous post through a garrison town.

I stand with Sirius on this matter and believe that it should not be allowed due to the location chosen.

Well, the risk to public order is an assessment that the police would make and any march could be banned on those grounds. The rest of it though, is very difficult to justify. In what sense is it fair to ban someone from seeking media coverage? Again, is this just because you personally don't like what they have to say?

Sirius · 10-01-2010, 10:57

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Originally Posted by martyh

how would you react if a group of christians decided to march through WB to object to the troops being in afghanistan?

The same

10-01-2010, 10:57

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Originally Posted by Sirius

The problem is that the date for the march would have to have been agreed in advance however the repatriations are random if you get what i mean. They can set a date for the march but the same cannot be said for a repatriation ??

The families of the fallen should be able to have there family member return quickly and not be held up my this type of march. Hope that makes sense

I have said they can have this march for all i care but not at wootton basset

thats makes perfect sense ,and the simple answer is to repatriate some were else on that day

Sirius · 10-01-2010, 10:58

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Originally Posted by Chris

Again, is this just because you personally don't like what they have to say?

Not at all, Its the location.

**Chris** · 10-01-2010, 10:59

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Originally Posted by martyh

how would you react if a group of christians decided to march through WB to object to the troops being in afghanistan?

As a Christian, I'd be lining up with the good people of Wootton Basset to tell the protesters to go home. A protest against the war should be made on the doorstep of those who authorise and pay for it - the MOD, Parliament, 10 Downing Street.

However, I wouldn't suggest they should be banned from doing the march just because it would upset me, and a lot of other people.

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Originally Posted by Sirius

Not at all, Its the location.

Because it's disrespectful, or some other reason?

Sirius · 10-01-2010, 11:01

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Originally Posted by marty

thats makes perfect sense ,and the simple answer is to repatriate some were else on that day

RAF lyneham is where the poor souls are flown into and wootton bassett is the first town they travel through, why should they have to change the airport and why should the town of Wootton bassett be snubbed like that ? .

10-01-2010, 11:03

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Originally Posted by Sirius

The same

so you think that all groups who object to the war in Afghanistan should be banned simply because they seek the best way to get their point accross ,ie marching through WB to get the best media coverage and make the best point possible

Sirius · 10-01-2010, 11:06

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Originally Posted by Chris

As a Christian, I'd be lining up with the good people of Wootton Basset to tell the protesters to go home. A protest against the war should be made on the doorstep of those who authorise and pay for it - the MOD, Parliament, 10 Downing Street.

However, I wouldn't suggest they should be banned from doing the march just because it would upset me, and a lot of other people.

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Because it's disrespectful, or some other reason?

disrespectful.

I am not a religious man but i do feel that those returning from Afghanistan who have payed the ultimate sacrifice should be treated with respect and the same for there families. I just feel that this march would have taken away that respect and the sanctity that has built up at Wooten bassist with regards to the repatriations.

10-01-2010, 11:07

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Originally Posted by Sirius

RAF lyneham is where the poor souls are flown into and wootton bassett is the first town they travel through, why should they have to change the airport and why should the town of Wootton bassett be snubbed like that ? .

and RAF lyneham is the only base we have in country ?whats wrong with using a different base on the day of the proposed march ,and how is that snubbing WB ,i'm sorry but that argument is not washing with me

Sirius · 10-01-2010, 11:11

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Originally Posted by marty

and RAF lyneham is the only base we have in country ?whats wrong with using a different base on the day of the proposed march ,and how is that snubbing WB ,i'm sorry but that argument is not washing with me

So your saying that they should move all the kit they have at lyneham, Including the reception area, The police escort vehicles and the security to another base for that day.

10-01-2010, 11:28

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Originally Posted by Sirius

So your saying that they should move all the kit they have at lyneham, Including the reception area, The police escort vehicles and the security to another base for that day.

assuming that a repatriation ceremony is needed on that day then yes it's not difficult ,it's not a major undertaking to have the deceased flown into ,say Brize Norton plenty of repatriations been done from there in the past

basa · 10-01-2010, 19:23

I just can't believe the PCness of some on this site.

You claim these people have a right to disrespect our dead soildiers? Try and disrespect their dead terrorists and you'll end up the subject of a fatwah or an arrest warrant.

I feel quite sick.

**Hugh** · 10-01-2010, 19:28

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Originally Posted by basa

I just can't believe the PCness of some on this site.

You claim these people have a right to disrespect our dead soildiers? Try and disrespect their dead terrorists and you'll end up the subject of a fatwah or an arrest warrant.

I feel quite sick.

Try reading the posts, rather than reading what you want out of the posts.

Nearly everyone has stated their disgust at this group's proposed actions - it's just that some of us are concerned that banning their right to protest because we dislike it (and them) intensely, is the first step in banning other types of protest as well.

Peter_ · 10-01-2010, 19:45

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Originally Posted by martyh

and RAF lyneham is the only base we have in country ?whats wrong with using a different base on the day of the proposed march ,and how is that snubbing WB ,i'm sorry but that argument is not washing with me

Quite simply because we should not have to move aside for them.