Islamic group's plan to march through Wootton Bassett

Originally Posted by nomadking

5/6 people in Luton? Then how come 7 Muslims are facing charges?

Sorry one person off then. Either way a very small number.

[nomadking]

That's 7 who where charged, not how many where there in total.
There's more than 7 in the picture in this article.

Luton Today Newspaper

As the procession of 200 soldiers approached the Town Hall, a band of about 20 men in Islamic dress began shouting at them.

Another march that was effectively banned.

Really?

As the article states

He has decided to abandon the event in case it attracts further trouble, but has organised another protest in London on April 12, to encourage the government to ban "all protests of hate towards troops".

So it has been "effectively banned" because the organiser decided to re-arrange it - interesting interpretation of reality there.

So if you can't go to the pub because you might bump into someone you don't want to meet, and you go out another night somewhere else, you have been "effectively banned" from going to the first pub?

[dillusion]

Send them all back and while they're at it send gordon brown back to scotland.

[Russ]

Back where, Muslimia?

Originally Posted by Russ

Back where, Muslimia?

I think he's referring to whatever country their parents/grandparents left to come to GB.

Originally Posted by nomadking

a) A planned march in Harrow was effectively banned by the authorities advising that it shouldn't go ahead. There was violence where Muslims attacked the Police.

b) There was violence at a London protest about the Danish cartoons which were about the prophet Mohammed.

a) What - this march, or this one? They both appear to have gone ahead, even if the second one was farcical, with idiotic anti-fascist protestors needlessly escalating the incidents into violent confrontations.

b) no there wasn't - there was incitement to violence by the idiots protesting, but could you please provide a link to the violence that took place, as I can't find it (but more than willing to accept it did, if you can provide a link). btw, 4 of the protesters were jailed for that.

I do love your phrase "effectively banned" - it is "effectively meaningless" (imho) (or does it mean they didn't get what they wanted, so they are going to go cry to their mummies?)

So, in summary - the marches in Harrow you said were banned, weren't; the violence you said took place at the anti-Danish cartoon protests in London, didn't.

You appear to have a proclivity to sub-optimal interpretation of available information (translated - you make stuff up to support your viewpoint ).

Originally Posted by cupid stunt

Send them all back and while they're at it send gordon brown back to scotland.

Does the same rule apply to all the Scots, Welsh, Irish, Sith Afreekans, Kiwis, Aussies, Septics, Canucks, etc?

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Russ

Back where, Muslimia?

Is that near Islamabad....

I think he has a point, if these people hate it here and us so much lets do them a favour and strip them of their subject/citizenship status.

[Russ]

And where would they go then? No country would be required to take them, they'd end up getting sent back here.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Russ

And where would they go then? No country would be required to take them, they'd end up getting sent back here.

Up to 2003 we could make people stateless if it were in the public interest or they were treasonous, who cares where they go or what happens to them.

[SMG]

Originally Posted by Damien

I don't know why people bring up Chamberlain,

Read your history & you may realise why.

Originally Posted by Damien

, these are a handful of people not Nazi Germany.

Again, look at the facts,

Originally Posted by SMG

These people arnt your everyday Muslims, these people are Fanatics, Terrorist supporters who openly call for Muslim rule, members & creators of known Terrorist groups, people who promote the killing of BRITISH troops,

Stop trying to tell us these people are ordinary, the`re not.

Originally Posted by SMG

Read your history & you may realise why.

Exactly what are you referring too?

[Russ]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Up to 2003 we could make people stateless if it were in the public interest or they were treasonous, who cares where they go or what happens to them.

I think we should care if the country they get sent to refuses them entry and they get shipped back here.

Oh god we are going off at asngles now arn't we lol. I think what SMG is referring too in relation to nazi germany Damien is they too started off as a very small group of malcontents and grew very quickly. While i do not see anything of that scale happening in this instance it is a semi valid point about the dangers of ignoring people when they are small because if you do they usually do grow tothe point where they cannot be ignored or even stopped.

Now as far as i am concerned anyone of these things that go on this march should immediately have their benefit stopped because if they can go here and there marching they can damn well get a job so shouldn't need to be kept by the state. We have become too soft in this country i don't really see how that can be argued otherwise. This is a bunch of people that claim to hate us all and our way of life yet are so committed to their cause they continue to live here enjoying all the benefits literally.

These are not devoted committed people they are **** pure and simple attacking a country and way of life because they are allowed to do it and take us all for a ride in the process. It is a joke and not remotely funny and i cannot imagine any other country allowing it. As for democratic iran oh yeah highly democratic that lot rig an election and open fire on everyone that opposes them.

We often talk about social problems on this forum and the young and much of the trouble is a lack of identity and pride in their country and allowing things like this to go ahead makes that worse. Now is the time for us to get some pride back into our country and those who serve to protect us day in and day out not allow a bunch of mealy mouthed traitors to march whereever they want just so we don't appear nasty or undemocratic.

When you allow yourself to be walked over you cannot complain and too many people now are getting sick of it whether it is happening to the degree some would have us believe or not is no longer relevent groups like the bnp are fast making inroads into public support because of issue's like this and for that reason alone we have to do something.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Damien

Exactly what are you referring too?

Chamberlain was British prime minister between 1937 and 1940, and is closely associated with the policy of appeasement towards Nazi Germany.