The knives are out for Brown...

[Osem]

According to the BBC, Geoff Hoon and Patricia Hewitt are behind a letter circulating amongst New Labour MP's calling for a secret ballot on the party leadership.

It'll be interesting to see who comes out of the woodwork to undermine Brown, who rushes to his defence and who waits for the dust to settle before stating their position.

No Beeb link yet but found this:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6977685.ece

...and as if by magic.....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8443769.stm

[Derek]

Economy in the toilet, a deeply unpopular war going on, huge unemployment and they are squabbling over who is at the helm when the NuLabour ship finally sinks.

Hurry up and call the election so we can get rid of this mob.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Derek S

Hurry up and call the election so we can get rid of this mob.

Motion seconded!!

[LondonRoad]

I've mixed feelings about this. Squabbling in an election year can't be healthy unless you're David Cameron.

What I don't want is an excessive swing to the tories. They're no better than each other... but both are worse when they have large majorities.

A few Ghurka votes for Clegg might help.

[Osem]

I bet Brown's busily ringing around his colleagues wondering who'll answer....

[Derek]

Originally Posted by Osem

I bet Brown's busily ringing around his colleagues wondering who'll answer....

Ringing? I thought he just typed a message then chucked the phone at their heads...

[LondonRoad]

Originally Posted by Osem

I bet Brown's busily ringing around his colleagues wondering who'll answer....

He'll have lackies who'll have already done that.... or tried to do it. I wonder how many fence sitting mobiles are switched off for the next couple of hours.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Derek S

Ringing? I thought he just typed a message then chucked the phone at their heads...

You're not suggesting Brown lacks self control are you?

[Hom3r]

Originally Posted by Derek S

Economy in the toilet, a deeply unpopular war going on, huge unemployment and they are squabbling over who is at the helm when the NuLabour ship finally sinks.

Hurry up and call the election so we can get rid of this mob.

The the crap called the torys are going to do better??

There'll just cock it up and blame labour.

[Derek]

Originally Posted by Osem

You're not suggesting Brown lacks self control are you?

Not at all. I'm sure the reason they need replacement office equipment in his office are simply because his staff work so hard at running the country...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/b...brown-printers

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Originally Posted by Hom3r

The the crap called the torys are going to do better??

There'll just cock it up and blame labour.

A monkey in a nappy couldn't do worse.

Its a cycle, the tories had their time in the 80's and early 90's and overstayed their welcome. Now labour need handed their coats and shown to the door.

I think things are as screwed as they can get pretty much and as for the labour party lets be honest what smart politician right now would want to take control of the party heading for defeat. I don't doubt for one minute his own party are sick of him but anyone that would step up and take control now shows they are not the sharpest knife in the block better to wait let GB go down hard and fast and then take over.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

There'll just cock it up and blame labour.

Yes, how unfair that'd be - blaming the previous government who served for over a decade and presided over the biggest recession in God knows how long...

It may have escaped your critical eye but Bliar and Brown spent the best part of 10 years blaming Thatcher for everything. Only when they got us well and truly into the financial mire did they change tack and start blaming the US for all our woes. If it wasn't for the fact that the money they've squandered dwarfs that lost during the Tory's ERM debacle they'd still be banging on about that! Given all the blame he's levelled at other people over the years you'd have thought Brown wasn't responsible for anything at all....

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Anyone bold enough to challenge Brown now would, if selected, have a pretty good excuse for losing the next election so it needn't be a career ending moment.

[punky]

I think Labour have realised that they won't win with Brown and it would just be a case of would the swing to the Tories be enough to put them in power.

It is a bit of a concern that if they do replace Brown they'll have a renewed vigour and a fresh start and be more competition for the Tories. Voters do have short memories.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by punky

I think Labour have realised that they won't win with Brown and it would just be a case of would the swing to the Tories be enough to put them in power.

It is a bit of a concern that if they do replace Brown they'll have a renewed vigour and a fresh start and be more competition for the Tories. Voters do have short memories.

Thankfully for us, the problem they have is that charismatic, credible, untarnished leaders-in-waiting are a tad thin on the ground on the Government benches. Cameron must be thinking Xmas 2011 has come very early.....

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Hmmmm - I know it's early days yet but this has been discussed on BBC radio ever since the story first broke and where are all the senior figures rushing to Brown's defence??.....

[Derek]

Originally Posted by Osem

Hmmmm - I know it's early days yet but this has been discussed on BBC radio ever since the story first broke and where are all the senior figures rushing to Brown's defence??.....

Saying "Just put the Nokia down"



In all seriousness though could this cause an early election? If he does go the new PM would have to call an immediate election.