Islamic group's plan to march through Wootton Bassett

[papa smurf]

well if these Muslim extremists and the bnp meet in wooton why not just leave them to get on with it ,they can wipe each other out and save us all a load of grief .
it would be preferable though if they picked some where else to do battle like empty moorland .
i personally wouldn't loose any sleep if andy got a pasting .

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Damien

I think some of the last few posts have highlighted the double standards of the some people in the British public. It's ok for servicemen to use violence against protesters? Im sorry but that's rubbish. I hope any member of the armed forces who uses violence to stop someone's right to protest, however much I disagree with that protest, is taken to court and kicked out of the army.

Agreed - being a UK soldier does not entitle you to commit acts of violence against those who disgaree with their job. I know that part of a soldier's training is to be ballsy but anyone to commits violence against another who disagrees with their views should be thrown in jail, muslim nutter, BNP thug or British soldier.

[budwieser]

I agree but, They want to stage this march as a point of extreme provocation. Let them march and take the consequences, they know what they`re doing.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Damien

I think some of the last few posts have highlighted the double standards of the some people in the British public. It's ok for servicemen to use violence against protesters? Im sorry but that's rubbish. I hope any member of the armed forces who uses violence to stop someone's right to protest, however much I disagree with that protest, is taken to court and kicked out of the army.

Having been in the forces i know you always support your buddy not matter what. This will be seen as an attack on members of the services and i for one don't give a flying wotsit what you think. You can rap this up all you want but if this parade goes ahead i will if i have my way head down there to support the lads in the forces.

This just shows up those that will allow this country to be walked on . This is the attitude i expect from the liberals and is why we must never allow the liberals in to power and any where near our armed forces because they will not support them.

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Originally Posted by budwieser

I agree but, They want to stage this march as a point of extreme provocation. Let them march and take the consequences, they know what they`re doing.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

What we have here, is that we have extremist who want to see violence in a small town of Wooton, where the residents, who are giving our deceased soldiers back from the battlefield the honour they deserve for giving people freedom, and these extremist are determined to prove a point which is sick, and they should NOT be allowed to cause any problems whatsoever. Problem is that if someone assualts one of them - it will be them that gets arrested.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

What we have here, is that we have extremist who want to see violence in a small town of Wooton, where the residents, who are giving our deceased soldiers back from the battlefield the honour they deserve for giving people freedom, and these extremist are determined to prove a point which is sick, and they should NOT be allowed to cause any problems whatsoever. Problem is that if someone assualts one of them - it will be them that gets arrested.

No one needs to assault any one you just block all the entry points in to the town

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Having been in the forces i know you always support your buddy not matter what. This will be seen as an attack on members of the services and i for one don't give a flying wotsit what you think. You can rap this up all you want but if this parade goes ahead i will if i have my way head down there to support the lads in the forces.

So beat up anyone who disagrees with what the army is doing? I'm sure several theird-world dictators have that idea.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Russ

So beat up anyone who disagrees with what the army is doing? I'm sure several theird-world dictators have that idea.

Please post where i have said beat up someone ? I said support them

Being ex forces i know what it means to support some one and you never forget that bond or walk away from it.

I see this as an attack on our lads in the forces, Thankfully it looks like Brown has more balls than some here.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Please post where i have said beat up someone ? I said support them

It's what seems to be implied in recent posts. I've got all the respect in the world for the forces, I've always said they're true heroes. But it seems like people are not permitted to oppose them. Don't get me wrong, I'm against this proposed march by the muslims but that's what we get when we live in democracy. We allow the voice of those even who we dislike.

[devilincarnate]

I have got a better idea , let them have there march but make them have it 30 miles east of HULL !

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Russ

It's what seems to be implied in recent posts. I've got all the respect in the world for the forces, I've always said they're true heroes. But it seems like people are not permitted to oppose them. Don't get me wrong, I'm against this proposed march by the muslims but that's what we get when we live in democracy. We allow the voice of those even who we dislike.

And i have not said to attack anyone. I want them blocked from entering the town by blocking the roads in with as many people as possible. The only way they will have then is to leave or force there way in and that will leave them open to arrest if they start getting nasty

Originally Posted by Sirius

Please post where i have said beat up someone ? I said support them

Being ex forces i know what it means to support some one and you never forget that bond or walk away from it.

I see this as an attack on our lads in the forces, Thankfully it looks like Brown has more balls than some here.

well you agreed with SMG's assesment of RobM's post so i would say you advocate the use of violence

and being ex-forces myself i know what it means to support your fellow soldiers and showing violent intent to a hopefully peacfull march ,however much in bad taste is NOT what i was taught .You have to remember that they are soldiers of Great Britain not a bunch of mecenaries .Any violent reaction by any member of the armed forces will only lose respect for them

Originally Posted by Sirius

Please post where i have said beat up someone ? I said support them

SMG said that he knew people in the armed forces who 'openly state they will use force to stop this march'. When Russ correctly pointed out that this was wrong and makes them no better you agreed with SMG's assertion that it was 'rubbish'.

Anyone who uses force against (peaceful) protesters is a criminal. Being a member of the armed forces does not allow you any immunity of the laws of the country and it doesn't give you the right to attack those who disagree with you.

Originally Posted by Sirius

Having been in the forces i know you always support your buddy not matter what. This will be seen as an attack on members of the services and i for one don't give a flying wotsit what you think. You can rap this up all you want but if this parade goes ahead i will if i have my way head down there to support the lads in the forces.

You may not care what I think but the armed forces represent this country, a free country in which the right to protest is valued. It is an aspect which the armed forces protect and the protection of our freedoms is why people support them. It is not a de-facto respect which is granted by virtue of putting on a uniform, it's what that uniform represents. Any member of the armed forces who attacks the protesters is not worthy of any respect what so ever.

The protesters have a right to march, but people should ignore them. Don't give platforms to fascists but you have to let them speak.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by martyh

well you agreed with SMG's assesment of RobM's post so i would say you advocate the use of violence

and being ex-forces myself i know what it means to support your fellow soldiers and showing violent intent to a hopefully peacfull march ,however much in bad taste is NOT what i was taught .You have to remember that they are soldiers of Great Britain not a bunch of mecenaries .Any violent reaction by any member of the armed forces will only lose respect for them

I am getting bored repeating myself so i will just quote myself shall i

Originally Posted by Sirius

And i have not said to attack anyone. I want them blocked from entering the town by blocking the roads in with as many people as possible. The only way they will have then is to leave or force there way in and that will leave them open to arrest if they start getting nasty

And just to make a point

Originally Posted by martyh

so i would say you advocate the use of violence

Your wrong. simples !

[devilincarnate]

The home secretary has said he will back any request from police or local government to ban a radical Islamic group marching through Wootton Bassett.

full story here :

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/w...re/8440408.stm