Islamic group's plan to march through Wootton Bassett - Page 3

TheDaddy · 02-01-2010, 16:28

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Originally Posted by martyh

no-one is speaking for you ,but what about the leaders of the mosques ,the men who are important within muslim communities ,if they spoke out more instead of burying their heads in the sand so much then maybe they would get a bit more respect

Looks to me like they have been speaking out, you/me/the press just weren't listening or else I'd imagine there'd be more than 500 turning up.

Yeah right 500, a pound says less than 50 turn up

02-01-2010, 16:31

Who are these spokespersons for the muslim community you ask. How about the one's that are on every tele channel everytime there is an attack by islamic nutter's they seem happy to have spokespersons then don't they. Sorry but this is designed for one thing and one thing only and that is to start trouble and if no one has the right to speak on behalf of the muslim community then no one sure as hell has the right to write to the familys of dead service people telling them their version of the events leading to the deaths of their loved one's which arn't the truth as he wasn't there so how doe's he know what he is on about.

This whole thing is making me sick and angry and i would guess that goes for the vast majority and will not be accepted hell if i wasn't so damn useless now if they went ahead with this i would go to wootton. If they despise this nation so much and those who fight to protect us all then they are free to leave and go where the hell they want. But if they are going to stay here and enjoy the many benefits of life in the UK then they need to pull their heads in and shut the hell up because i am sick and tired of hearing whinging moaning gits constantly slagging off this country that they are so happy to stay in.

This sort of thing is what is turning more and more people hostile towards the islamic community and all normal muslims must realise that and start standing up to the idiots in their own community.

02-01-2010, 16:36

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Looks to me like they have been speaking out, you/me/the press just weren't listening or else I'd imagine there'd be more than 500 turning up.

Yeah right 500, a pound says less than 50 turn up

it doesn't matter if it's 500 or just 5 ,it shouldn't be happening, by all means protest against the war in iraq or afganistan there would be a lot of support from non-muslims but to protest on the back of calling our servicemen murderers is wrong and as far as i'm concerened muslims aren't doing themselves any favours

papa smurf · 02-01-2010, 16:39

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

What is this Muslim community and who exactly speaks for them? No one speaks for me and nor do I want them to, I wonder how many of the "Muslim community" are happy for people to pitch up claiming to speak on their behalf.

its funny how there's always Muslim community leaders moaning about one thing and another,up until the point when some one has to accept some responsibility ,then no one's in charge of anything and Islam has no leaders ,neat way of dodging the responsibility .

TheDaddy · 02-01-2010, 16:40

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Who are these spokespersons for the muslim community you ask. How about the one's that are on every tele channel everytime there is an attack by islamic nutter's they seem happy to have spokespersons then don't they.

Do they? I thought some one on the production team would phone up a guest who they either think is relevent or they have a previous working relationship, at no time was anyone Muslim or not consulted on whether thye were happy with the choice of guest. This talk of Muslim communities is BS imo, to pharaphrase some thinktank (oxy)moron it's not very inclusive is it.

02-01-2010, 16:48

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Who are these spokespersons for the muslim community you ask. How about the one's that are on every tele channel everytime there is an attack by islamic nutter's they seem happy to have spokespersons then don't they. Sorry but this is designed for one thing and one thing only and that is to start trouble and if no one has the right to speak on behalf of the muslim community then no one sure as hell has the right to write to the familys of dead service people telling them their version of the events leading to the deaths of their loved one's which arn't the truth as he wasn't there so how doe's he know what he is on about.

This whole thing is making me sick and angry and i would guess that goes for the vast majority and will not be accepted hell if i wasn't so damn useless now if they went ahead with this i would go to wootton. If they despise this nation so much and those who fight to protect us all then they are free to leave and go where the hell they want. But if they are going to stay here and enjoy the many benefits of life in the UK then they need to pull their heads in and shut the hell up because i am sick and tired of hearing whinging moaning gits constantly slagging off this country that they are so happy to stay in.

This sort of thing is what is turning more and more people hostile towards the islamic community and all normal muslims must realise that and start standing up to the idiots in their own community.

what he said

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Do they? I thought some one on the production team would phone up a guest who they either think is relevent or they have a previous working relationship, at no time was anyone Muslim or not consulted on whether thye were happy with the choice of guest. This talk of Muslim communities is BS imo, to pharaphrase some thinktank (oxy)moron it's not very inclusive is it.

All muslim communities have leaders ,people who are highly respected within the community ,usually a mosque leader .These people have quite a lot of say and are very influencial

webcrawler2050 · 02-01-2010, 16:48

Here here. If this happens, its going to all hell to break loose in Bassett.

SMG · 02-01-2010, 16:49

It does make the ordinary peace loving Muslim look a bit sick though. It appears that some of these "Leading Muslims" are all powerful, legends in their own minds, & speak for every Muslim.

It would be refreshing if a group of leading Muslims came out in public, & supported their country of choice for once.

After all, there are Muslims in the British Army, who signed up to do the very job they are doing, you don't see them bleating & moaning.

webcrawler2050 · 02-01-2010, 16:51

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Originally Posted by SMG

It does make the ordinary peace loving Muslim look a bit sick though. It appears that some of these "Leading Muslims" are all powerful, legends in their own minds, & speak for every Muslim.

It would be refreshing if a group of leading Muslims came out in public, & supported their country of choice for once.

After all, there are Muslims in the British Army, who signed up to do the very job they are doing, you don't see them bleating & moaning.

I expect if this is too happen, then everyone will be there. Army, Police, residents, BNP etc etc. It will be world war. I bet there will be alot of arrests for being "racist"

02-01-2010, 16:57

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Originally Posted by SMG

It does make the ordinary peace loving Muslim look a bit sick though. It appears that some of these "Leading Muslims" are all powerful, legends in their own minds, & speak for every Muslim.

It would be refreshing if a group of leading Muslims came out in public, & supported their country of choice for once.

After all, there are Muslims in the British Army, who signed up to do the very job they are doing, you don't see them bleating & moaning.

that would mean they would have to commit themselves to Britain and they won't do that because it suits them for now to be the underdog ,the group who need special treatment ,they are playing us like a fiddle and the British government just sits back and give us away

devilincarnate · 02-01-2010, 16:58

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Originally Posted by webcrawler2050

I expect if this is too happen, then everyone will be there. Army, Police, residents, BNP etc etc. It will be world war. I bet there will be alot of arrests for being "racist"

yes and most of them will be the police

I need to agree with some on here as shortly my nephew is going to become one of these murdorous gits as they speak of and he is only 18 (yes the same as some of those patriotic people that have lost their lives in conflicts) .

As i have alot of friends who served in IRELAND and have seen their friends shot or blown up due to conflicts and this is what ENGLAND will be turned back too if this is allowed to happen !

webcrawler2050 · 02-01-2010, 17:01

I dont agree at all. This is England!!! Not Engla-stan. I dont care, to be honest. What I care is our boys n gals are out their fighting a loosing battle. No supplies, pants equipment, PM thats all "good" in the press but really is being "ordered" by the US. England, needs to grow a set of balls and stand up.

devilincarnate · 02-01-2010, 17:04

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Originally Posted by webcrawler2050

I dont agree at all. This is England!!! Not Engla-stan. I dont care, to be honest. What I care is our boys n gals are out their fighting a loosing battle. No supplies, pants equipment, PM thats all "good" in the press but really is being "ordered" by the US. England, needs to grow a set of balls and stand up.

True as what did happen to RUSSIA when they tried to invade and sort out AFGHANISTAN after 7 yaers they left after getting their ass kicked by the TALIBAN . S o what are we meant to do ?

webcrawler2050 · 02-01-2010, 17:05

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate

True as what did happen to RUSSIA when they tried to invade and sort out AFGHANISTAN after 7 yaers they left after getting their ass kicked by the TALIBAN . S o what are we meant to do ?

Stand up for our rights. Stand up to our Government otherwise, Big Brother is coming.

devilincarnate · 02-01-2010, 17:11

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Originally Posted by webcrawler2050

Stand up for our rights. Stand up to our Government otherwise, Big Brother is coming.

Well said , but we are not the same as the french and not the same as we used to be where everybody came out to protest as they did in the 70s .

What we need to do is instead of trying to get RATM to christmas no1 . Is all get together on a petition to get our troops pulled out of all conflicts .

Bless all the troops all over the world and a happy new year to them all and lets hope that they are able to celebrate it without no deaths .

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