Anger After British Man Executed In China - Page 6

Flyboy · 30-12-2009, 11:07

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Originally Posted by Hom3r

Crimes punishable by death in china

Unlike some other countries practicing capital punishment, in China, financial crimes such as counterfeiting, fraud, tax fraud, corruption, property crimes such as theft, and smuggling cultural relics, gold, silver or other precious metals can be punishable by death. These are some of the 68 crimes that are eligible for the death penalty in China.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital...hable_by_death

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A dedicated link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimes_...ublic_of_China

This clearly depends on the state's own interpretation of "unlawful."

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20. Unlawfully detaining another person or unlawfully deprives the personal freedom of another person by any other means AND if he causes injury, disability or death to the victim by violence.

22. Where a functionary of a State organ commits any of the crimes mentioned in (20).

31-12-2009, 02:57

The news were bigging it up.

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Originally Posted by foreverwar

Wow! most unlike you to say something negative against Muslims.....

He lived in Poland before he went to China, so feel free.

He broke the law he deserved to go, I'll slate these people all I like because they are hypocrites IMO.

soicky · 31-12-2009, 03:00

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Originally Posted by Nidge

The news were bigging it up.

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He broke the law he deserved to go, I'll slate these people all I like because they are hypocrites IMO.

I wouldn't recommend taking anything on board from the bnp site.

Sirius · 31-12-2009, 09:00

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Originally Posted by soicky

I wouldn't recommend taking anything on board from the bnp site.

However if its true then they have a point would you not say, I would be most upset if that's the norm for the BBC.

It would be interesting to see how much cover our so called national tv provider did give coverage wise to the 2 events.

(Note i do not support the BNP) Just to point that out before the standard few and they know who they are have a tissy fit and start accusing me of being a BNP supporter

Peter_ · 31-12-2009, 10:02

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Originally Posted by Sirius

(Note i do not support the BNP) Just to point that out before the standard few and they know who they are have a tissy fit and start accusing me of being a BNP supporter

If they do not know that you abhor the BNP and all it stands for by now then they are either blind or stupid.

soicky · 31-12-2009, 10:58

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Originally Posted by Sirius

However if its true then they have a point would you not say, I would be most upset if that's the norm for the BBC.

It would be interesting to see how much cover our so called national tv provider did give coverage wise to the 2 events.

(Note i do not support the BNP) Just to point that out before the standard few and they know who they are have a tissy fit and start accusing me of being a BNP supporter

I doubt the figures are accurate but if they are than it doesn't surprise me.

nomadking · 31-12-2009, 11:13

To be fair, I suppose the amount of time depends partly on how much there is to report and if there are people to interview etc.

Flyboy · 31-12-2009, 11:36

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Originally Posted by soicky

I doubt the figures are accurate but if they are than it doesn't surprise me.

Would that be the figures that declare tens of thousands of pensioners have died this year, because they can't afford their heating bills?

Or is it the number of drug dealers in the ranks of the BNP; I wonder what their position is on these.

Arthurgray50@blu · 31-12-2009, 16:57

How many times over recent years, have we heard the same story over drug related problems involving British subject.

That country has laws it abides by, and it clearly shows in some foriegn country, large signs, clearly saying about drugs being brought into the country, if this poor guy was ill, why wasn't someone with him to stop 'someone' giving him the drugs to carry.

I feel very sad for the poor guy and his family, but laws are there for a reason.

Sirius · 31-12-2009, 17:08

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

How many times over recent years, have we heard the same story over drug related problems involving British subject.

That country has laws it abides by, and it clearly shows in some foriegn country, large signs, clearly saying about drugs being brought into the country, if this poor guy was ill, why wasn't someone with him to stop 'someone' giving him the drugs to carry.

I feel very sad for the poor guy and his family, but laws are there for a reason.

Well said.

Live by the sword die by the sword is my motto to

Flyboy · 01-01-2010, 11:42

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

How many times over recent years, have we heard the same story over drug related problems involving British subject.

That country has laws it abides by, and it clearly shows in some foriegn country, large signs, clearly saying about drugs being brought into the country, if this poor guy was ill, why wasn't someone with him to stop 'someone' giving him the drugs to carry.

I feel very sad for the poor guy and his family, but laws are there for a reason.

Point one, he was apparently duped into carrying the bag, he was allegedly unaware of the contents.

Point two, do you expect everyone with a mental illness to be chaperoned everywhere all the time?

idi banashapan · 01-01-2010, 13:09

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Originally Posted by Flyboy

Point one, he was apparently duped into carrying the bag, he was allegedly unaware of the contents.

"did you pack all the bags yourself, sir?"

"nope"

"are you carrying any luggage for anyone else?"

"erm.... yes"

"did you check the luggage for it's contents, sir?"

"oh... "

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Originally Posted by Flyboy

Point two, do you expect everyone with a mental illness to be chaperoned everywhere all the time?

if they a ill enough that they will willing take someone elses bags on a flight when they tell you they will meet you at the other end of the journey, yes.

Sirius · 01-01-2010, 13:31

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Originally Posted by Bender

"did you pack all the bags yourself, sir?"

"nope"

"are you carrying any luggage for anyone else?"

"erm.... yes"

"did you check the luggage for it's contents, sir?"

"oh... "

if they a ill enough that they will willing take someone elses bags on a flight when they tell you they will meet you at the other end of the journey, yes.

I agree with you 100%

Peter_ · 01-01-2010, 22:41

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Originally Posted by Flyboy

Point one, he was apparently duped into carrying the bag, he was allegedly unaware of the contents.

Point two, do you expect everyone with a mental illness to be chaperoned everywhere all the time?

He managed for 53 years to travel around and he was living in Poland prior to flying out with another persons suitcase which he will have declared as his own and fell foul of Chinese laws.

Then he suddenly developed a mental illness which was debunked and was sentenced under Chinese law under which UK laws have no jurisdiction.

As he is now dead the is little that we can say apart from the hope that this thread may prevent another person from being a drug mule and falling foul of another countries laws.

Mr Angry · 02-01-2010, 00:36

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Originally Posted by Moldova

Then he suddenly developed a mental illness which was debunked.

Debunked by whom, exactly?

The Chinese singularly refused to have him medically examined (even in an attempt to "debunk" any assertion that he was mentally ill).

"The Chinese authorities originally indicated a willingness to allow him to be assessed by a local doctor, but the court subsequently refused. Reprieve immediately sought permission for British psychologist Dr Schaapveld to see Akmal, and paid for him to fly to China - where he too was inexplicably refused access."

People would do well to read up a little before going off on this "he deserved it", "he wasn't mentally ill", "I support this sentence 100%" ill informed sheepish populism that is being spouted on this thread.

Read the written statements from those who knew him, who incidentally had & have nothing, whatsoever, to gain from their actions - before you spout drivel about anyone having "debunked" anything.

The only thing that has been "debunked" is the notion that Britain carries any weight whatsoever in world affairs or diplomacy.