Drink drivers face car crushing

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

I sorry but you talking carp.

If I go to a party to a place in the sticks and I am over the limit and unable to drive.

I have arranged for somebody to give me a lift home but they gone home and forgot me.

I'm standing by my car and its absoloutely chucking down, theres no one about and I cannot get a phone signal and it way to far to walk, I have three options:

1. Risk driving home (which I would never do.)

2. sleep on the back seat in the dry. (which according to you, I should have the book thrown at me.)

3. try and sleep on the floor in the heavy rain and risk drowning in the puddles.

If I did that then I would put the keys somewhere outside away from the car as you can still be done for being in charge of a vehicle I believe and Derek should be able to verify one way or the other.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Hi Homr, lets solve this problem, I WORK for the law, whilst you have the keys to your vehicle, you are in 'possession' of your vehicle, if for example a PC Plod comes along and especially in the 'sticks' as you call it, he has the grounds to check you out and finds you WITH the keys, he thens takes the matter further, and you end up blowing and you are over the limit, then your stuffed.

IF, you saw someone where you were drinking, and you asked them to opened your car, to sleep it off, then in the morning or after you wake, you would still be stuffed, as you will still have the alcohol in your urine and blood. Over the years l have seen more DD accidents then you have had hot dinners. Where l live in Richmond, several years we had a very nasty accident, where the guy turned his car over twice as he was driving so fast, he was that drunk, the hospital refused to allow the police to breath test him or take blood until he knew what was happening, he ended up killing two peopleand he had two broken legs, and got away with it, otherwise he would have been banned for life, and they said that in the papers.

[Derek]

Originally Posted by Moldova

If I did that then I would put the keys somewhere outside away from the car as you can still be done for being in charge of a vehicle I believe and Derek should be able to verify one way or the other.

Lets not get all upset and assume cops will start charging people right, left and centre for daring to be within 100ft of their car when half-cut.

It is an option and is used every so often. It can be used if the keys are outside the car (what if the accused had them but chucked them away unseen by the cops?) when the keys are inside the car and whether the accused is inside or outside.

Basically if you are going out to get drunk it might be an idea to take your housekeys off the keyring and leave the carkeys at home. Either that or don't give plod any excuse for thinking you might be daring to drive home.

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Derek S

Lets not get all upset and assume cops will start charging people right, left and centre for daring to be within 100ft of their car when half-cut.

It is an option and is used every so often. It can be used if the keys are outside the car (what if the accused had them but chucked them away unseen by the cops?) when the keys are inside the car and whether the accused is inside or outside.

Basically if you are going out to get drunk it might be an idea to take your housekeys off the keyring and leave the carkeys at home. Either that or don't give plod any excuse for thinking you might be daring to drive home.

Thanks for the clarification, it does not bother me either way as I do not drink alcohol as I do not like the taste, give me a soft drink every time.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Moldova

Thanks for the clarification, it does not bother me either way as I do not drink alcohol as I do not like the taste, give me a soft drink every time.

nobody actually likes the taste -one acquires it

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

nobody actually likes the taste -one acquires it

I have tried them and still prefer soft drinks.

[Hom3r]

Arthur I didn't mean to offend. I've been in this situation, I drove there and we was gonna get a lift home, but I was left on my tod and very peed off.

Its just that now a days people want to go for a drink and have 101% no intention of driving, a cab is gonna cost, (I've been to places where from my house has cost £25 each way) so they book a cab home and drive there.

Later that night the cab has either

1. taken somebody else home thinking it you or closer to there home and there gonna call it a night.

2. refused to take you as you are drunk and might be sick in his car, and drives of.

3. not bothered to go to you location.

What are you suposed to do?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

Arthur I didn't mean to offend.

Its just that now a days people want to go for a drink and have 101% no intention of driving, a cab is gonna cost, (I've been to places where from my house has cost £25 each way) so they book a cab home and drive there.

Later that night the cab has either

1. taken somebody else home thinking it you or closer to there home and there gonna call it a night.

2. refused to take you as you are drunk and might be sick in his car, and drives of.

3. not bothered to go to you location.

What are you suposed to do?

designated driver
http://www.cokezone.co.uk/home/asset...ed_drivers.jsp

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Hi Homr, you didn't, If l can help people l will, At this time of year public houses or the posh word the pub, quite often help customers by taking the keys off drivers.

I would urge, anyone going for a drink this christmas, and especially women, ONLY use registered cabs, and licenced ones, There are cabs that will only collect women, and they are the MOST vulnerable at this time of year, IF people want a drink, get a cab, and ask how much before you get one, and sometimes police station quite often have the phone numbers of cabs. have a great time everyone.

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

designated driver
http://www.cokezone.co.uk/home/asset...ed_drivers.jsp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLFSqBPerc0

[Hom3r]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Hi Homr, you didn't, If l can help people l will, At this time of year public houses or the posh word the pub, quite often help customers by taking the keys off drivers.

I would urge, anyone going for a drink this christmas, and especially women, ONLY use registered cabs, and licenced ones, There are cabs that will only collect women, and they are the MOST vulnerable at this time of year, IF people want a drink, get a cab, and ask how much before you get one, and sometimes police station quite often have the phone numbers of cabs. have a great time everyone.

I will never drink and drive, I have had to go to a party and not drink because I could not rely on any of my then so called mates to get me home.

But if you have been to a party at a club house outside of your town (it was upper clacton rugby club, near Epping) after the party I was waiting for a cab with a couple, the club owner locked up and went, after an half-hour we decided that the cab was a no show, so we had to walk home (this was before mobiles were affordable), it was 5 miles to the edge and another 4 to my home.

5 miles down the road (some 2 hours later) we found a phone box and manage to get a cab.

If I had a car there I would have slept in it.

[Tech_Boy]

It should be this simple, you get caught driving a moving car/bike & blow positive,
1st time, loss of licence for 12 months & massive fine.
2nd time, bullet in the head, they'll never do it agan.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Tech_Boy

It should be this simple, you get caught driving a moving car/bike & blow positive,
1st time, loss of licence for 12 months & massive fine.
2nd time, bullet in the head, they'll never do it agan.

judge dread has spoken

[Arthurgray50@blu]

I think the saddest thing about this whole matter, is that you will get 'chancers' and they are the people that l hate, are the businessmen from the centre of London, who will chance there luck, and pay with there life.

Last year l read in the media that the police pulled over some driver, and it the THIRD time he had done it,. The law in this country has to get tougher, And we had a celebrity who got done, and because he needed the car for his job, he gotbanned for 6 months and a hefty fine, and yet in the same court another driver got banned for three years, no matter who you are, it has to be take the licence away and jailed for 12 months without parole.

[Tech_Boy]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

judge dread has spoken

Nah, Dredd would shoot em on the 1st offence