Is "Dave" on his way to doing a Kinnock '92-More Tory "mistakes."

[chris9991]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

Dave or Tony or Gordo it's going to be the samo,samo and we will still be in the toilet.

and it's all our fault

Originally Posted by chris9991

and it's all our fault

Well not unless everyone votes for the Liberals.

However that smacks too much of a decisive reaction and we the British public must stick to our pre-conceived prejudices.

Maggy no offence have you ever thought maybe the reason the masses arn't flocking to the lib dems is because they don't want too for valid reasons ??. Personally like many i like some of what the lib dems say do i believe they can deliver were they to get into power no not a cat in hell's chance but it sounds good.

I have a lot of respect for vince cable but the fact is it is always easy to be right when you don't actually have to make the decisions and he has been wrong a few times as well. I do like this whole "labour or tory makes no difference" but "nick clegg and the lib dems are what is needed" attitude but lets be honest there is hardly a knife blade between any of them when it comes to what they will actually have to do when in power as that is pretty much gauranteed by the mess we are in.

All in all doesn't really matter what your political colour is we're all going to be in the same mess no matter who gets in but labour are the worst of the three by a long mile and have to be gotten rid of. As for Flyboy and his latest stream of pro labour threads i just laugh at them as that is usually all they deserve.

[Derek]

Hmmmmm,

Tory claims that schools with links to a radical Islamic group received money from an anti-extremism fund are false and "irresponsible", says Ed Balls.

The schools secretary said the cash was from a nursery fund, which local authorities say has the same name.

Ah so Ed 'talks' Balls says its untrue so of course it must be cause the government have never lied or been mistaken.

The head teacher of the school in Slough, Farah Ahmed, told the BBC she was not a member of Hizb ut-Tahrir although would not confirm she had never been a member, saying it was an "irrelevant question".

I'd say it was a very relevant question and if she was a member it raises serious questions with regards to her suitablity to teach children.

[BBKing]

And yes, it was Gordo..

...who's a neo-liberal Thatcherite in economic outlook. Are you saying we should avoid having neo-liberal Thatcherites in charge of our economy in future?

[squealy]

Originally Posted by alferret

We could start listing everything that has been increasingly embarrassing to the labour government and the United Kingdom over the last 12 years.

,

We? Looks like just you there to me kidda.

Originally Posted by alferret

but then I wouldnt want to make this thread into a "MY POLITICAL PARTY IS BETTER THAN YOURS" debate because at the end of the day the freeloading no-marks that ruin (sorry run) this country have limited time and they know it.

Blimey. I'd hate to see it when you do want to turn it into that kind of debate.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by BBKing

Are you saying we should avoid having neo-liberal Thatcherites in charge of our economy in future?

Politics aside, I'd say we'd be a lot better off just having people who aren't utterly inept in charge of our economy.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by BBKing

...who's a neo-liberal Thatcherite in economic outlook. Are you saying we should avoid having neo-liberal Thatcherites in charge of our economy in future?

I'm saying nothing of the sort..

[BBKing]

Politics aside, I'd say we'd be a lot better off just having people who aren't utterly inept in charge of our economy.

That's George Osborne out, for a start. Ken Clarke, of course, would probably do a good job, but he's unacceptable to the ascendent Tory Right (William Hague and Liam Fox) owing to his views on Europe

Brown's trouble stems exactly from the fact that his economic ideology and inflexibility prevented him taking sufficent care over the banking sector (who had his ear, and spent ten years telling him that regulation would kill UK financial services). The Tories, also having the bankers whispering into their ear, spent the time castigating him for *not* deregulating enough (be more like Ireland, was Osborne's advice). It's my view that both of them are wrong, for the same reason, and you can't divorce it from the crisis nor from the growing income inequality (to be fair, Labour's failure here was in not reversing the rise in inequality under Thatcher, rather than contributing to it).

[Flyboy]

Originally Posted by Osem

Politics aside, I'd say we'd be a lot better off just having people who aren't utterly inept in charge of our economy.

Then why hope for "Boy George?" Hardly a paragon of intellect.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Flyboy

Then why hope for "Boy George?" Hardly a paragon of intellect.

Boy George? Do you mean Gideon Osborne

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Boy George? Do you mean Gideon Osborne

He obviously did it for political reasons, to appeal to the common man - or did he? (from wiki)

Originally named Gideon, he changed his name to George when he was 13. In an interview in July 2005, Osborne said: "It was my small act of rebellion. I never liked it. When I finally told my mother she said, 'Nor do I'. So I decided to be George after my grandfather, who was a war hero. Life was easier as a George; it was a straightforward name."

What a selfish, self-serving bar-steward, changing his name this way....

---------- Post added at 16:53 ---------- Previous post was at 16:51 ----------

Originally Posted by Flyboy

Then why hope for "Boy George?" Hardly a paragon of intellect.

On what do you base that statement, please?

(or should it be "statement"? ).

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

He obviously did it for political reasons, to appeal to the common man - or did he? (from wiki)


What a selfish, self-serving bar-steward, changing his name this way....

Is that the same Gideon that had speech therapy to sound less plummy, perhaps it was in reverence to a long lost cockney uncle or perhaps he really was appealing to the common man....

[Hom3r]

Satan will be skating before I ever vote tory.

Most of the brown stuff that we are started with Maggy T. closing the mines, privtizing public companies, etc

[Flyboy]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

On what do you base that statement, please?

(or should it be "statement"? ).

Perhaps the most recent was his inability to calculate his own mortgage expenses claim?