Do you feel well served by your local police force? - Page 5

Escapee · 11-11-2009, 16:49

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Originally Posted by Russ

Forgive me if my bovine-excrement radar goes doolaly with that post.

Like some other members of this forum you are very fond of hiding behind your keyboard making offensive comments at others who have differing opinions to yourself.

In the instance involving the person in my front garden, they suffered serious injury. I was alerted to the incident because he was frantically hitting my front door for help as two burly attackers were beating him senseless.

Unlike spineless people who hide behind their keyboards, I picked up a weapon and went out. I may just possibly have saved the persons life, but then again I guess that would be alien actions to some on this forum.

Russ · 11-11-2009, 16:53

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Originally Posted by Escapee

Like some other members of this forum you are very fond of hiding behind your keyboard making offensive comments at others who have differing opinions to yourself.

In the instance involving the person in my front garden, they suffered serious injury. I was alerted to the incident because he was frantically hitting my front door for help as two burly attackers were beating him senseless.

Unlike spineless people who hide behind their keyboards, I picked up a weapon and went out. I may just possibly have saved the persons life, but then again I guess that would be alien actions to some on this forum.

Seriously - get over yourself. On just about every emotive subject on here you seem to have had some kind of extreme experience. Do you honestly expect us to believe that you were able to positively identify a criminal whereas South Wales Police, with all their skills and resources, can't?

Pull the other one.

Escapee · 11-11-2009, 16:56

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Originally Posted by Russ

Seriously - get over yourself. On just about every emotive subject on here you've had some kind of extreme experience. Do you honestly expect us to believe that you were able to positively identify a criminal whereas South Wales Police, with all their skills and resources, can't?

Pull the other one.

On Youtube I posted 2 lots of CCTV footage, they can be found by searching 'Pontypool CCTV' The one has since been removed by Youtube. (Actually still there but fuzzed out the picture)

The other clearly shows the person involved and I understand they are well known to the police.

Russ · 11-11-2009, 17:03

I'm not interested in what you've put on youtube. What I suspect is more likely the case is the person you believe to be responsible is in fact responsible - but not enough evidence is there for the police to be able to do anything about it.

Derek · 11-11-2009, 17:07

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Originally Posted by Russ

but not enough evidence is there for the police to be able to do anything about it.

Almost all reported crimes will end up with the Police knowing who did it. Proving it is another matter entirely.

I know that a certain person has a unique way of stealing from houses, I know when he get released early from another stretch inside and when a day or two after he gets released houses get screwed using his unique way its going to be him doing the thieving.

Can I prove it unless he is caught red-handed within the house?

Probably not.

Escapee · 11-11-2009, 17:10

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Originally Posted by Russ

I'm not interested in what you've put on youtube. What I suspect is more likely the case is the person you believe to be responsible is in fact responsible - but not enough evidence is there for the police to be able to do anything about it.

You may be not interested, and there are many people here who are not interested in some of your posts. These posters do not have a higher than almighty attitude though, they simply choose not to comment if they have nothing to add rather than hide behind anonymity and use a position to their advantage.

The lack of interest by the police has nothing to do with lack of evidence, it has much to do with the lack of action if they manage to get the case to court.

Russ · 11-11-2009, 17:14

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Originally Posted by Derek S

Almost all reported crimes will end up with the Police knowing who did it. Proving it is another matter entirely.

I know that a certain person has a unique way of stealing from houses, I know when he get released early from another stretch inside and when a day or two after he gets released houses get screwed using his unique way its going to be him doing the thieving.

Can I prove it unless he is caught red-handed within the house?

Probably not.

Seriously? So you'd have a fairly good idea of who's responsible for a burglary just from reading the crime report?

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Originally Posted by Escapee

You may be not interested, and there are many people here who are not interested in some of your posts. These posters do not have a higher than almighty attitude though, they simply choose not to comment if they have nothing to add rather than hide behind anonymity and use a position to their advantage.

ad hominem

Escapee · 11-11-2009, 17:18

I would suggest that you do the same as I do.

I don't like you, so I don't comment on you posts. You clearly don't like me, so don't comment on mine.

In guess a small element of this forum will be happy when all the posters disagree with them are either banned or driven away. Then I guess there will be a small amount of members with similar opinions who can debate to their hearts content and hear the answers they want.

I guess that day is getting closer.

Gary L · 11-11-2009, 17:43

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Had to have a think about this one because i don't think it is as simple as yes or no. To answer you directly Gary no i don't feel well served by our local police now that makes you happy but ask another question on top. Question being do i blame the police or the government and thats where the grey area is because i am not happy but i do not blame the police.

I suppose it is a 2 part question. it is the governments fault mostly, but it was the police that didn't put the 2 cases shown on Panorama to the CPS. to me and others that will be the deciding factor on why crime and justice are a joke now.

it's becoming to be like they (the government) have given up and said we might as well make some money out of it.

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Originally Posted by Derek S

Hmmm, I suppose that'll teach me to actually read the posts after they are made.

Anyway what was meant to be posted was.

WHO are they?

11-11-2009, 20:37

Wouldn't it be nice if personal debates that have sod all to do with the thread weren't constantly derailing threads on here. As many will know i rarely agree with Gary and his views on the police but for once he has raised a good issue and thread lets discuss the topic and not the individuals commenting on it

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Will21st · 11-11-2009, 20:39

Yes,I am reasonably happy with the police,HOWEVER:

1. I would like to see the cops toughen up a lot more.I'm not sure non-confrontational policing is still appropriate.

2. Arm the police!

3.Allow citizens with no criminal convictions to carry guns for their own protection,or have a gun at home.Safety is the citizens responsibility as well as the polices'.

4. Get rid of a good 70% of all offences.

5.The police isn't there to protect us from ourselves..... ergo:Legalize,regulate and tax ALL vices,incl. drugs,prostitution etc.

6.Abolish unnecessary paperwork!

7.Re-introduce local,elected sheriffs that have their own law enforcement contigent.
You don't like the way your area is policed?Vote for a new sheriff!

I could go on but that's it for now....

Your thoughts?

**Chris** · 11-11-2009, 20:41

My thoughts? I don't want to live in Hazzard County, which is what your idea is a recipe for.

Will21st · 11-11-2009, 20:44

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Originally Posted by Chris

My thoughts? I don't want to live in Hazzard County, which is what your idea is a recipe for.

Ok..... whatever you say Jack!

**Chris** · 11-11-2009, 20:54

Just call me Roscoe.

Derek · 11-11-2009, 21:35

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Originally Posted by Russ

Seriously? So you'd have a fairly good idea of who's responsible for a burglary just from reading the crime report?

Most of the time depending on the area or MO. Some criminals stick to what they know best and despite being on almost permanent early release or numerous bails continue to offend whenever they are released.

Surgically attaching a cowbell to their necks would do wonders for reducing crime.

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Originally Posted by Will21st

2. Arm the police!

Nooooooooooooooooooo. Tasers yes, Full on arming no.

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Originally Posted by Will21st

3.Allow citizens with no criminal convictions to carry guns for their own protection,or have a gun at home.Safety is the citizens responsibility as well as the polices'.

I'm pretty sure Thomas Hamilton had a completely clean record. Not the kind of person you would want wandering about packing heat.

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Originally Posted by Will21st

4. Get rid of a good 70% of all offences.

Which ones would you suggest?