Man blames rape attempt on devil.

[papa smurf]

what is that annoying squeak .

Right, enough, I am going to start knocking heads together in a minute. Get back to the TOPIC please.

[punky]

Originally Posted by Niles Crane

Bearing in mind the only things you know about this guy is he's black Eritrean and attempted rape due to his religion.................

Are you telling us Christianity is a foreign, non-British religion and thus incompatible with Great Britain?

Christianity is perhaps the most dominant religion in Africa so i can sort of see why you've got your generic "It's PC gawn mad!" quips mixed up.

And there I was thinking that our government relaxed immigration rules to push a multicultural agenda by allowing increased numbers of ethnic minorities. Although it could be another Tony Blair and Labour government i'm thinking of.

p.s. I do appreciate the effort you have put in to try and flame me, although it is rather pathetic. D-, must try harder.

[Niles Crane]

Originally Posted by punky

And there I was thinking that our government relaxed immigration rules to push a multicultural agenda by allowing increased numbers of ethnic minorities. Although it could be another Tony Blair and Labour government i'm thinking of.

p.s. I do appreciate the effort you have put in to try and flame me, although it is rather pathetic. D-, must try harder.

Unless this man's culture is different and/or has direct relevance his attempted rape, then like i said; it's just a generic "It's PC gawn mad!" quip with no real relevance. You might as well bemoan an increase in birth rate among the born and bred British.

[punky]

Originally Posted by Niles Crane

Unless this man's culture is different and/or has direct relevance his attempted rape, then like i said; it's just a generic "It's PC gawn mad!" quip with no real relevance. You might as well bemoan an increase in birth rate among the born and bred British.

Either

1. Point out where I have said that his culture or religion has a direct relevence to the rape

or

2. STFU and stop trying to paint me as some little Englander in lieu of any real discussion or facts.

[Niles Crane]

Originally Posted by punky

Either

1. Point out where I have said that his culture or religion has a direct relevence to the rape

or

2. STFU and stop trying to paint me as some little Englander in lieu of any real discussion or facts.

1. So you admit your reference to multiculturalism is pointless and redundant then?

2. Yes, some real discussion and facts would be good from you too, instead of irrelevant comments about multiculturalism. Oh, and i've painted you as nothing. If you don't want to be challenged, then perhaps you should follow your own net speak advice.

[punky]

Originally Posted by Niles Crane

1. So you admit your reference to multiculturalism is pointless and redundant then?

I don't think this goverment loosening immigration controls and then failing to deport people as some messed up Labour-initiated social experiement is neither pointless or redundant at all. This has been publicised for years particularly recently.

2. Yes, some real discussion and facts would be good from you too, instead of irrelevant comments about multiculturalism. Oh, and i've painted you as nothing. If you don't want to be challenged, then perhaps you should follow your own net speak advice.

I don't mind being challenged on me beliefs. I just don't like users like you trying to paint me as your preferred villain by reconstituting my posts in whatever way makes sense in your mind.

[Niles Crane]

Originally Posted by punky

I don't think this goverment loosening immigration controls and then failing to deport people as some messed up Labour-initiated social experiement is neither pointless or redundant at all. This has been publicised for years particularly recently.



I don't mind being challenged on me beliefs. I just don't like users like you trying to paint me as your preferred villain by reconstituting my posts in whatever way makes sense in your mind.

This is not only aimed at you, but both those who are apparently anti-multiculturalism or pro-multiculturalism:

Going from what we know, the thought that this man is anything to do with multiculturalism is odd. As far as i'm aware, Christianity is part of British history and culture. As are black people. As are Africans (Eritrea in was formerly under British rule, as well), whether they were born in Africa or not. So unless you're disputing this, then there's nothing we know about this man which indicates his culture is any different than the average British man. As far as i'm concerned there's a big difference between multiculturalism and immigration.

Yes, and i don't like people being painted as outsiders or of another culture, in their own country. This painting almost always comes in response to or reasoning for a negative aspect of the person or peoples. If somebody posted a thread about a black, foreign born African, Christian man saving a woman from being raped is anybody going to be mentioning a single thing about multiculturalism? No, and rightly so.

This isn't particularly about this man, it's about every other similar person in this country, of which there are millions. At one moment, they're told to integrate and do as the Romans do, at another they're deemed as tools of a government plot of "multiculturalism".

[punky]

Originally Posted by Niles Crane

This is not only aimed at you, but both those who are apparently anti-multiculturalism or pro-multiculturalism:

And that's the reason i'm going to ignore your posts from now on.

Good day to you.

[Niles Crane]

Originally Posted by punky

And that's the reason i'm going to ignore your posts from now on.

Good day to you.

That's very odd. You've clearly ignored them already or completely misunderstood, otherwise you'd realise i was specifically stating i'm not attempting to attack you personally and my objections also apply to those who have no relevance to you or your opinions.

I thought a proper discussion about the issue was about to unfold. Never mind.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Gary L

The way you've said it says he attempted to rape someone due to his religion.
that's how it looks to me and even Papa. I bet it reads that way to many others too.

Yet again you either misread the whole story, misunderstood it or just added your own version to make it religion-bashing.

Originally Posted by SMG

It appears that he is blaming the Devil for orchestrating the crime. Back in the middle ages, (or today in the Middle East) someone may actually listen to him.

Plenty of people today would listen to him, myself included. I would agree with him if he's saying the devil set up the circumstances. But to use it as a defence or an excuse? No way. The devil put the temptation in front of him (just as he does with everyone in any given situation) but it was his own decision to act on it. He had the ability to ignore the woman he attacked. He chose not to. He is to blame.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Russ

Yet again you either misread the whole story, misunderstood it or just added your own version to make it religion-bashing.

No, I've read it the way it reads.

The devil put the temptation in front of him (just as he does with everyone in any given situation)

He doesn't do it to me, because I don't believe in him.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Gary L

No, I've read it the way it reads.

Nowhere does it say he attempted to rape someone due to his religion.

Originally Posted by Gary L

He doesn't do it to me, because I don't believe in him.

Regardless of whether you believe in him, this is what the devil does to all. The difference-maker is whether or not we act on the temptations, that's what makes use guilty or not guilty as in this case.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Russ

Nowhere does it say he attempted to rape someone due to his religion.

Unless I had written it the way he did.

Regardless of whether you believe in him, this is what the devil does to all.

No he doesn't.
he only does it if you believe in him.

[Niles Crane]

Originally Posted by Russ

Nowhere does it say he attempted to rape someone due to his religion.



Regardless of whether you believe in him, this is what the devil does to all. The difference-maker is whether or not we act on the temptations, that's what makes use guilty or not guilty as in this case.

Russ, Gary was responding to me not the story.

You know that's what the devil does to all, regardless of belief, because you know the devil exists. To those who are atheist, they know the devil does not exist, so is completely irrelevant.