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Old 05-11-2009, 01:21   #16
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Old 05-11-2009, 01:24   #18
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There no requirement or expectation for you to bite. If you're feeling a bit let down that I've pointed out where you've added words to this story then that's what happens when you put your own spin on a story like this.

The man says the devil created the situation - to an extent I'll go along with that if he's talking about the temptation but it's inadmissible in court and has no justification on any level. Depending on someone's spiritual beliefs it may explain his actions but does not excuse them.
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Re: Man blames rape attempt on devil.

His reported words were:

"I believe in the bible and in Christ. I abide by the rules. I was drinking and it was Satan that created this situation."

Satan didn`t order him to do it, but the implication was, that Satan set him up to do it. Perhaps he would like to be tried as a weak minded fool, & get a lessor sentance. We all have the "Devil" in us sometimes, when we do things we wouldnt ordinarily do, but attempted rape isnt one of them.
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Satan didn`t order him to do it, but the implication was, that Satan set him up to do it.
The point is on spiritual/christian level he is correct (we believe satan puts temptation in the way of us all in the hope we'll take it). But again I stress it's totally wrong to use that as a defence in court and on a moral level, no matter what our beliefs may be, we are ultimately responsible for our actions. We make the decision to commit acts.
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The point is on spiritual/christian level he is correct (we believe satan puts temptation in the way of us all in the hope we'll take it). But again I stress it's totally wrong to use that as a defence in court and on a moral level, no matter what our beliefs may be, we are ultimately responsible for our actions. We make the decision to commit acts.

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There no requirement or expectation for you to bite. If you're feeling a bit let down that I've pointed out where you've added words to this story then that's what happens when you put your own spin on a story like this.
Russ I just added my view, as did you.
Satan did not create any situation, as you say. the situation was there and he acted on it out of his own free will.

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Re: Man blames rape attempt on devil.

Why is it when people comit stupid things like this ffs they come up with stupid explinations?

I remember being told about a guy who used to drink at our local pub before people got to know what he was like and he never returned.

He went to prison for sexual assault on a 13 year old boy years ago, he basically kidnapped him from Swansea and took him to Cardiff to comit the act and the reason that he give was "the boy was being friendly and he thought he was gay and wanted it" What the hell are these people on?? Thats like saying if we are friendly to one another now we are making sexual advances to each other.
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Satan did not create any situation, as you say.
Don't be so insolent. That's not what I said and you know it.
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A man caught on CCTV trying to rape a woman in Glasgow blamed the incident on the devil, a court has heard.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/...st/8343127.stm

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His reported words were:

"I believe in the bible and in Christ. I abide by the rules. I was drinking and it was Satan that created this situation."

Satan didn`t order him to do it, but the implication was, that Satan set him up to do it. Perhaps he would like to be tried as a weak minded fool, & get a lessor sentance. We all have the "Devil" in us sometimes, when we do things we wouldnt ordinarily do, but attempted rape isnt one of them.
Maybe he was trying to show he had mental problems? After all, while belief in deities is not a sign of mental illness, people who do have mental problems have been known to state that they have been commanded to do something by God.
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Maybe he was trying to show he had mental problems? After all, while belief in deities is not a sign of mental illness, people who do have mental problems have been known to state that they have been commanded to do something by God.
And in this case, the Devil.
he daren't say God put temptation in his way for this one

anyway I think he'll plead insanity and go through psychiatric evaluation. where a normal rape case goes by DNA and the word of the victim.
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Maybe he was trying to show he had mental problems? After all, while belief in deities is not a sign of mental illness, people who do have mental problems have been known to state that they have been commanded to do something by God.

It is a possible excuse for him to use, & for all we know he could be unbalanced. It will all come out in the end, but in my view, sexual assault should be punishable irrespective of the mental state of the attacker.

I hold very, very harsh views on the criminally insane.
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Show him what hell looks like for 10 years, then deport him.
Given the choice between sending him to the Scrubs and Eritrea, I vote for Eritrea.

However, i'm not overly optimistic on his chances of being deported? We have our multiculturalism to think of!
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Multiculturalism eh... I now wait for someone to tell us to forget blaming the devil and blame immigration instead.
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