[Update] BNP on Question Time this week

[TheNorm]

Originally Posted by martyh

... how long do you have to live in a country to become "indigenouse" ...

I think Old Nick said 17,000 years, which was the end of the last ice age.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Moldova

I was born in England and therefore I am English and any form I fill in should have that option.

What about you being Welsh are you happy to tick the White British box or should it not be White Welsh.

I seriously could not care. I'm Welsh and British so I'd select whichever option was on offer.

Originally Posted by martyh

it's that word again "indigenous" i would be classed as indigenous but how long do you have to live in a country to become "indigenouse" i don't like it's use in this context

My view ive made clear I do not wish to clear this country of anyone who is already here. I do want tighter controls on who comes here from now on and I want to stop pandering to the minority and make them adapt to this country and not this country to them

Think is when 43% in a survey have similar opinions and none of the mainstream parties listen then who is going to?

Originally Posted by zing

My view ive made clear I do not wish to clear this country of anyone who is already here. I do want tighter controls on who comes here from now on and I want to stop pandering to the minority and make them adapt to this country and not this country to them

agree 100%

Originally Posted by Moldova

Yes but they do nowadays have multiple options except the one I want

And then people will want the options for
Cornish
Yorkshire
Lancashire
et al......

Where do we stop?

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by zing

My view ive made clear I do not wish to clear this country of anyone who is already here. I do want tighter controls on who comes here from now on and I want to stop pandering to the minority and make them adapt to this country and not this country to them

I think I can safely say everyone here is agreed.

or maybe not

Re English ancestry - you are all probably mostly Spanish/Iberian (not Northern European).

The genetic evidence shows that three quarters of our ancestors came to this corner of Europe as hunter-gatherers, between 15,000 and 7,500 years ago, after the melting of the ice caps but before the land broke away from the mainland and divided into islands. Our subsequent separation from Europe has preserved a genetic time capsule of southwestern Europe during the ice age, which we share most closely with the former ice-age refuge in the Basque country. The first settlers were unlikely to have spoken a Celtic language but possibly a tongue related to the unique Basque language.

There is, further down in the article, an interesting point that may sit uncomfortably with Nick's beliefs about "indigenous natives"

So, based on the overall genetic perspective of the British, it seems that Celts, Belgians, Angles, Jutes, Saxons, Vikings and Normans were all immigrant minorities compared with the Basque pioneers, who first ventured into the empty, chilly lands so recently vacated by the great ice sheets.

Must be why the English seem to be drawn to the Costa del Sol......

[Arthurgray50@blu]

To me if you hold a BRITISH PASSPORT, you are British, those who don't should prove that they can work in this country with a visa, but gurrantee about 50% don't have either, and on Monday they will be at the benefit office claiming benefit ( and no this is not a knock at the unemployed). If you go to certain parts of London the Uk border agencies will be having a field day getting illegals.

Great, Art - why don't you phone the Border Agency with this intel and give them a tip off? You might get a reward.

[danielf]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

To me if you hold a BRITISH PASSPORT, you are British, those who don't should prove that they can work in this country with a visa, but gurrantee about 50% don't have either, and on Monday they will be at the benefit office claiming benefit ( and no this is not a knock at the unemployed). If you go to certain parts of London the Uk border agencies will be having a field day getting illegals.

Arthur: I don't hold a British passport, and don't have a visa, yet I have worked and paid taxes in the UK for nearly 10 years. This is because I am an EU citizen, and I can work anywhere in the EU, much like a British person can work anywhere in the EU. Do you have a problem with that?

Originally Posted by danielf

Arthur: I don't hold a British passport, and don't have a visa, yet I have worked and paid taxes in the UK for nearly 10 years. This is because I am an EU citizen, and I can work anywhere in the EU, much like a British person can work anywhere in the EU. Do you have a problem with that?

Of course he has - you're not "indigenous"

btw, re Nick's point about the Maoris being indigenous to New Zealand (Aotearoa) - they only arrived there from the Polynesian Islands about 350 years before any Europeans (Pakeha) arrived there, so probably not the best example he could have given.

[Jimmy-J]

"THE QUEEN has declared WAR on the BNP."

link

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Product 13

"THE QUEEN has declared WAR on the BNP."

It's alright for her, she's in a palace!

Griffin will probably attack her now, and mention something about Germans

[SMG]

Originally Posted by SMG

People who find themselves unable to voice their opinions, because of the fear of being branded "Racist" will use the ballot box instead. The main parties have consistently failed to address the problem. Hence the increase in BNP votes.

Originally Posted by downquark1

You miss my point. Why would people who are genuinely not racist vote for people who are? Or is it simply a matter of protest vote?

Yes. A protest vote.

In France, when the NP gained a large vote, it made the main parties act together & do something about the situation. Perhaps that could work here? Our main parties are too busy lining their own pockets & smiling at cameras to do anything. Quite apart from the fact that they are a bunch of useless cowards, scared at the prospect of rocking the boat & loosing their jobs.

Cannot please his own Party, what's new in Politics ?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...bnp?CMP=AFCYAH