[Update] The Royal Mail strike thread

Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004

turned families against families

I think you'll find that raving Trot called Arthur Scargill was the one most directly responsible for that, seeing as he called a national strike without mandate from the miners. Unsurprisingly those who disagreed with the action felt they had a greater obligation to feed their families than to humour him and his revolutionary delusions.

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

He hates us Paddies.

Don't you mean "we Paddies"?

btw, "hate" is such an emotive word - I prefer "love differently"


(I should point out, in the spirit of openness, that 3 out 4 of my grandparents were "Paddies" - the other one was Belgian )

[grubbymitts]

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/we_do...to_strike.html

- from the posties themselves to the customer - what this strike means.

[punky]

[Posties say:] We don't want to strike!

Then don't. Simples.

At least have the balls to come out and say you want to strike because you want more money and can't give a **** about our deliveries. Don't insult us by lying to our faces.

Damn! I suppose the 4/5 days promised me about my new debit card will mean more like two weeks...

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004

I am all too aware Pierre that Maggie has not been around for 18 years or whatever,

Good then you'll realise how tired it is to try and blame her for every woe that has befallen the country. There has been 18years passed to reverse some of the edicts that she may have put in place. If you're not happy with things then blame the incumbant administration who are now in their third term.

but she left a lasting legacy in this country,

Correct - a strong economy. One whichn the present government has ridden for the past 11 years, doing their damndest to naff it up, until they finally succeeded last year.

turned families against families, hardly anything for any Tory to be proud of I think to be honest.

I refer you to Chris's answer.

You tell families who were ripped apart during her reign to let go.

I would tell families that haven't reconciled after 18years that life's too short.

But at the end of the day her and her cronies were looked after were they not?
Nothing changed there!

I would argue they were more honest than the present lot, all parties included??????????????

She was the one to start all this Agency working lark too.

Agency working is essential in todays labour market. I know agency workers that do very well out of it. It helps companies that have to deal with large fluctuations of seasonal demand. But it is very rarely used as a long term way of staffing companies as agency workers are expensive. In fact where I work they are currently undertaking an exercise to reduce agency staff and were possible get them to become full time employees, but many would rather stay as agency.

So I don't see what the problem is with Agency staff.

Another feather to her cap was the Toxteth riots, to name just one.

Really, I would have thought that years afterwards when she appointed a Minister for Liverpool, and ploughed investment and development into the city. Hosting the International Garden Festival, redeveloping Albert Dock setting off the regeneration of city that now stands as one of the finest in Europe. Was that the feather you were thinking of?

[danielf]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Really, I would have thought that years afterwards when she appointed a Minister for Liverpool, and ploughed investment and development into the city. Hosting the International Garden Festival, redeveloping Albert Dock setting off the regeneration of city that now stands as one of the finest in Europe. Was that the feather you were thinking of?

One of the finest cities in Europe? I do hope you're joking...

[Flyboy]

Well, it seems like Crozier is not too bothered about talking to the workers, then.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by danielf

One of the finest cities in Europe? I do hope you're joking...

I'm never going to be at the front of the queue to praise Liverpool as a city but I was there in june and whereas some areas really were rough, other parts (including around Albert Dock) really were nice and affluent. If Thatcher was in part responsible for that then she didn't do a bad job.

[danielf]

Originally Posted by Russ B

I'm never going to be at the front of the queue to praise Liverpool as a city but I was there in june and whereas some areas really were rough, other parts (including around Albert Dock) really were nice and affluent. If Thatcher was in part responsible for that then she didn't do a bad job.

Much of the recent regeneration in Liverpool was due to the 2008 European Capital of Culture. I think the EU had more to do with it than Thatcher.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Russ B

I'm never going to be at the front of the queue to praise Liverpool as a city but I was there in june and whereas some areas really were rough, other parts (including around Albert Dock) really were nice and affluent. If Thatcher was in part responsible for that then she didn't do a bad job.

Correct, last post on this as it's off topic.

But as a "City of Culture" Liverpool has it all. The waterfront and the city centre Rival any city. Streets ahead of Manchester, Birmingham, Leeds, Sheffield.

Outside of the capital the only city that narrowly beats it, is Edinburgh.

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Originally Posted by danielf

Much of the recent regeneration in Liverpool was due to the 2008 European Capital of Culture. I think the EU had more to do with it than Thatcher.

Wrong, wrong wrong,

Take it from some one that grew up in Liverpool in the 80's. The redevelop of Liverpool started in the 80's, around 84/85 if you want to put a year on it.

[SB_07]

Is Parcelforce affected by these strikes?

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by SB_07

Is Parcelforce affected by these strikes?

No

Its a well known that this is all the fault of the conservatives policies ever since that cow thatcher stopped school milk its all gone wrong , only thing conservative governments are good for is causing community discord.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Fancy bringing up Arthur Scargill, in relation to the 'possible', what people don't realise is that the miners strike could have been over quicker than what people think it, The unions agreed TWICE with management that they would call off the strike, but the government said NO to the deal on both occasions.
On the RM situation, l think the postal workers do deserve a better deal and need to have better conditions,