[Update] The Royal Mail strike thread - Page 17

Sirius · 18-10-2009, 17:20

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

more than were down to you fighting my corner ,this is getting tedious now, you obviously have issues with the union you claim to be a member of so take it up with them -contact dan the voice rep he'll start the ball rolling .

I dont have an issue with you at all i just have a issue with the CWU, PM on its way.

papa smurf · 18-10-2009, 17:30

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Originally Posted by Sirius

I dont have an issue with you at all i just have a issue with the CWU, PM on its way.

received mate

Arthurgray50@blu · 18-10-2009, 17:44

The CWU and the Royal Mail MUST get round the table and sort this one out, I for one would not work for the Post Office, due to the silly hours that they do, they work in all weathers, We are going to have a very bitter and dirty Xmas, as this is what will happen, we are going to have each other slagging off each other, but to me it will be pointless and stupid to employ temp workers, most of them will be foriegn workers (especially on the money the Royal Mail will pay ) and they won't know what the hell to do, instead of paying out this money for temps, pay it to the loyal workers of RM and get it sorted.

**Chris** · 18-10-2009, 18:37

Loyal?

Sirius · 18-10-2009, 18:41

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Originally Posted by Chris

Loyal?

Yep i was thinking that as well

Flyboy · 18-10-2009, 21:13

As Billy Hayes has invited Crozier to go to ACAS tomorrow. Who wants to start a book on whether Crozier will bother to turn up?

Arthurgray50@blu · 18-10-2009, 21:44

I doubt it very much Crozier will do what he normally does, do everything against what the union wants, he couldn't run football properly and he cannot run the RM either, he is nothing but a pen pusher who causes trouble.

**Hugh** · 18-10-2009, 22:17

Pen pusher......

Arthur, you are so analog.

Plastic · 18-10-2009, 23:03

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Anger at Mail plan to hire temps. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8313042.stm The extra staff will deal with the backlog caused by the strikes as well as helping with the Christmas rush.

I can't see that going down too well....

19-10-2009, 00:06

You know what, this may just be the kick up the arse they need.

How does the postal system work in Poland? Hmm, I am guessing it works OK. Who are most of these 30K temps going to be?

Migrant workers who will be greatfull for the work and I am sure they will work bloody hard too.

2.howmany MILLION unemployed in this country? Union or no union, I would be bloody wary if I was a Royal (if you can still call it that) Mail employee.

The writing is on the wall. Strike and they will axe the bloody lot of them and re staff with migrant workers who will only be too glad of the work, I will not go as far to say they will do a better job, but hey...

TheDaddy · 19-10-2009, 06:50

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Originally Posted by Sirius

A blog from a postman. Not that i am saying its all one sided

That blog is the best thing I have read in this entire thread. I have always supported the postal workers and that has only strengthed my support, do people really think that the decision to strike was taken lightly and without reason?

ZrByte · 19-10-2009, 07:51

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

That blog is the best thing I have read in this entire thread. I have always supported the postal workers and that has only strengthed my support, do people really think that the decision to strike was taken lightly and without reason?

Very accurate too, the only bit I didn't know of was the random volume counts. That is I know they happened but I never heard the results.

Jon T · 19-10-2009, 08:17

I still feell something is being missed here, and that is:..........

With the current ecomical/financial problems, coupled with high employment, you don't call a strike, no if''s, bo but's, you just don't. It's a kick in the teeth for every working age man and woman in this country that hasn't got a job but wants one. Same with the current bus driver strike, and the proposed firefighters strike in South Yorkshire. Strikes depend on a degree of public symathy/empathy, I don't really think it's there in the current climate.

The Royal Mail have had a declining workload since the rapid onset of e-communication/technology advancment, the union seems to have it's head up it's arse for two reasons, 1) Less work = less jobs needed, 2) IT/Mechanised systems have been integrated into other parts of industry for decades, so why not in yours.

The other, semi/related thing that I find shocking is that I could sort of half see the point of striking if their weren't any potential rivals/replacements to RM waiting in the wings, but there are, and this is giving them exaclty the chance they are looking for to take a greater market share, this in turn forces prices down and at last gives a credible alternative to RM.

**Hugh** · 19-10-2009, 08:48

This may have been covered before (re the temp workers), but don't the Royal Mail normally hire around 15k temps at this time of year for the build up to Christmas?

So they are hiring another 15k temps to deal with the backlog caused by the strike - is this reasonable, or do we believe that the workers going on strike should be able to earn overtime catching up on the backlog created by the strike?

Druchii · 19-10-2009, 08:56

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Originally Posted by foreverwar

This may have been covered before (re the temp workers), but don't the Royal Mail normally hire around 15k temps at this time of year for the build up to Christmas?

So they are hiring another 15k temps to deal with the backlog caused by the strike - is this reasonable, or do we believe that the workers going on strike should be able to earn overtime catching up on the backlog created by the strike?

I think it is reasonable.

They normally take on 15k this time of year due to the additional Christmas mail etc. This is fine.
The extra 15k is also fine, why should they have to pay people who have refused to work lots of overtime? In a recession to boot. Actually, it's an even better thing that they hire people for that very reason.

30,000 new jobs for people. Cool.