Football : Season 2009/2010 - Page 27

Russ · 08-09-2009, 09:46

It's my natural dislike of Arsenal

punky · 08-09-2009, 10:49

Well, well, well.... Citeh have been reported to Fifa over tapping up

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ty/8243446.stm

Just as well they've bought so many players

Kymmy · 08-09-2009, 10:52

Just read it, ever get the feeling though that it's the following line from the previous chelsea report especially for the smaller continental clubs that's driving these claims

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Chelsea are also liable over Kakuta's fine, and they also will have to pay Lens Â£113,000 in compensation.

Shadow Demon UK · 08-09-2009, 11:49

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Originally Posted by punky

Well, well, well.... Citeh have been reported to Fifa over tapping up

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ty/8243446.stm

Just as well they've bought so many players

I wonder how long it will be until Sheffield United sue all these clubs for the reason of their relegation?

Matty_ · 08-09-2009, 12:12

Why does it suddenly seem to be that all these frogs are suddenly croaking very loudly

Anything to do with money, im wonder!

What i find utterly ridiculous is the notion that it is against the "rules" for any player under 16 to sign a formal contract (in France anyway) yet they babble on about a pre-contract agreement saying if the lad does this and that then he`s ours. Is that not some form of contract which is theoretically not allowed!
Are they not breaking there own rules by having these arrangements.

I`m sure we are about to see many more of these cases come out and i feel the whole debacle is getting completely ridiculous.
If there is no written contract signed by both parties (which your not supposed to do before the player is 16 years old) then what is the problem.
The Chelsea case is a differant kettle of fish and they should rightly be punished but for these other cases it just seems like the directors of these clubs see the chance of making some easy money.
What`s next?

TheDaddy · 08-09-2009, 12:17

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Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK

I wonder how long it will be until Sheffield United sue all these clubs for the reason of their relegation?

I wouldn't joke about that because as we found out to our cost, eventually they'll find some one barmey enough to believe them

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Originally Posted by Matty_

Why does it suddenly seem to be that all these frogs are suddenly croaking very loudly

Anything to do with money, im wonder!

Wouldn't have thought so, the amounts they are being compensated with are tiny compared to what the player would be worth once he signs that first pro deal

Arthurgray50@blu · 08-09-2009, 12:18

To me the whole business of 'tapping players' is that the bigs guns of FA, FIFA AND EUFA, have only hit the top of the cake as far as l am concerned, there must be loads of clubs out there, that have 'tapped' a player and get away with it, but there is also the players, that all these clubs can't buy success via the back door.

Matty_ · 08-09-2009, 12:57

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Wouldn't have thought so, the amounts they are being compensated with are tiny compared to what the player would be worth once he signs that first pro deal

I realise that but they haven`t signed any pro deal yet, i`m not saying i agree with this tapping up of young players, the club that guides them through the early days is usually the one to get the least and that cannot be right.

As far as i can tell only Chelsea have breached any rules but it seems as though all the English clubs are being picked on. Does this type of thing not happen with other European clubs?

Arthurgray50@blu · 08-09-2009, 16:39

I think that Sheff Utd, had every reason to sue, the reason the failed was because they are not big enough, where as West Ham are, if should have been West Ham got relegated not United.

TheDaddy · 09-09-2009, 06:51

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

I think that Sheff Utd, had every reason to sue, the reason the failed was because they are not big enough, where as West Ham are, if should have been West Ham got relegated not United.

Why's that then, because Sheff Utd say so? The reason they failed was because they didn't get enough points through the course of the season, not because West Ham broke a rule that was never designed to be breached by a company owning a players rights, it was designed to stop clubs influencing moves, you know like how Sheff Utd stopped Steve Kabba from playing against them when he moved to Watford that same season.

The legal opinion at the time was that a coach and horses could have been driven through that rule and with hindsight it would have been better to have done just that imo.

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Originally Posted by Matty_

I realise that but they haven`t signed any pro deal yet, i`m not saying i agree with this tapping up of young players, the club that guides them through the early days is usually the one to get the least and that cannot be right.

As far as i can tell only Chelsea have breached any rules but it seems as though all the English clubs are being picked on. Does this type of thing not happen with other European clubs?

If you believe said ''frog'' clubs, the players have agreed some thing very similar to pre contract agreements, which will be the crux of their arguments.

And no it's not just English clubs, Roma were banned for 2 windows to (reduced to 1 on appeal) for poaching Mexes, think a Swiss club has recently received similar sanctions to.

09-09-2009, 17:18

More allegations against Man United are looming....

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MANCHESTER United are facing new transfer poaching allegations after Fiorentina approached FIFA about the illegal signing of teenager Michele Fornasier.

The Italian giants are considering a formal complaint over the signing of the 16-year-old defender.

The news will come as a major setback to United boss Sir Alex Ferguson who has had to fend off allegations from French club Le Havre for poaching teenager Paul Pogba.

http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/126145

United's legal dept are going to be busy it seems.

**Damien** · 09-09-2009, 17:23

Liverpool were accused by Crewe as well...

Kymmy · 09-09-2009, 18:07

The one good thing about all of these accusations is that the FA are more likely to see how rediculous they are.

Arthurgray50@blu · 09-09-2009, 18:21

West Ham broke the rules over the Tevez affair and should have relegated, or loss heavuily of points, and therefore quite rightly United should have been promoted.

It always appear the big clubs can get away with murder, yet small clubs get hit hard with minus points, l could name three clubs that started a season between 20 and 30 minus points, this is what is unfair about football today, there is one rule for one, and one for another.

Russ · 09-09-2009, 18:22

This is true. United are allowed to break every and any FA rule and so they should - they are the champions and it should stay that way.