Football : Season 2009/2010 - Page 22

Kymmy · 01-09-2009, 19:40

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...pe/8232544.stm

Two match ban for the diving offence by Eduardo

(sorry if it's already been posted)

TheDaddy · 01-09-2009, 20:52

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Originally Posted by Kymmy

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...pe/8232544.stm

Two match ban for the diving offence by Eduardo

(sorry if it's already been posted)

Presumably this new rule will be used against all future trangressors, all of a sudden the money Madrid invested in Ronaldo doesn't look such a wise move

Shadow Demon UK · 01-09-2009, 21:06

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Presumably this new rule will be used against all future trangressors, all of a sudden the money Madrid invested in Ronaldo doesn't look such a wise move

You say that as if he constantly dives every match. I can't remember too many occasions last season, or the season before of him diving like Eduardo did.

Personally, i think it's a ridiculous ruling and way over the top, they're just using him as a scape goat and are going to cause more problems in the long run. What annoys me even more is that UEFA are prepared to review and ban a player but wouldn't review and rescind a card last season with Fletcher.

kingbuxton · 01-09-2009, 22:10

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I can't remember too many occasions last season, or the season before of him diving like Eduardo did

I think it was very easy to get on Ronnies back at times, not to say he didn't make a rod for his own back, but he really tried to clean it up for a couple of seasons, and he took some hits for it, amazed he never got injured.

The Eduardo thing is insane, yes, it was a cronic dive, and I have nothing against a two match ban as long as they are setting a standard that they will stick to. I can't wait for the ECL opening games now. The issue they have here is it is a ban that has come off the back of reviewing the tapes. So now every dubious decision, specifically ones that lead to sendings off and goals, will have to be reviewed.

I dunno if this was something that was planned and he is the unlucky sod to be first or if it just another part in the Balatter/Platini "We Are Sick Of English Teams Doing Well In Europe" ethos..........

**Damien** · 01-09-2009, 23:22

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Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK

You say that as if he constantly dives every match. I can't remember too many occasions last season, or the season before of him diving like Eduardo did.

I think part of Eduardo's dive is that he was so bad at it. Ideally the players want to go down after some content has been made. Ronaldo did dive quite a bit, sometimes blatantly. I don't know if he ever did one in Europe but you can bet Uefa wanted to keep out of it, not out of some sort of United favouritism, but just because Eduardo is only the second player ever to be punished by Uefa for diving. They just don't do it.

Which makes this case all the more confusing. Why single out one player, is he really only the second player to get away with diving? No. There were dives in the Europa League matches the day after, didn't Ashley Young dive? Is Uefa investigating? No.

So there is no consistency. The only thing I can think of was the media uproar over the dive meant Uefa needed to appear to be doing something.

SB_07 · 02-09-2009, 02:26

Been in America for a week, would anyone be so kind as to give me a run down of the transfers? =)

Shadow Demon UK · 02-09-2009, 11:48

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Originally Posted by Damien

I think part of Eduardo's dive is that he was so bad at it. Ideally the players want to go down after some content has been made. Ronaldo did dive quite a bit, sometimes blatantly. I don't know if he ever did one in Europe but you can bet Uefa wanted to keep out of it, not out of some sort of United favouritism, but just because Eduardo is only the second player ever to be punished by Uefa for diving. They just don't do it.

Which makes this case all the more confusing. Why single out one player, is he really only the second player to get away with diving? No. There were dives in the Europa League matches the day after, didn't Ashley Young dive? Is Uefa investigating? No.

So there is no consistency. The only thing I can think of was the media uproar over the dive meant Uefa needed to appear to be doing something.

I cannot remember one time Ronaldo blatantly dived last season or the season before, not one anywhere near as blatant as Eduardo's or Eboue's. His reputation goes before him with the vast majority of people even though he has cut it out of his game. He did/does go down easily, which is why i said in my last post UEFA have caused more problems in the long run. When does going down become a dive? Ronaldo goes down easily after contact from other players, but can you ban someone who has had contact from another player? Can you ban someone for jumping away from a tackle with little or no contact? If they're going to ban players for these things then nearly every player will be banned because they all do it.

**Damien** · 02-09-2009, 14:41

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Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK

I cannot remember one time Ronaldo blatantly dived last season or the season before, not one anywhere near as blatant as Eduardo's or Eboue's. His reputation goes before him with the vast majority of people even though he has cut it out of his game. He did/does go down easily, which is why i said in my last post UEFA have caused more problems in the long run. When does going down become a dive? Ronaldo goes down easily after contact from other players, but can you ban someone who has had contact from another player? Can you ban someone for jumping away from a tackle with little or no contact? If they're going to ban players for these things then nearly every player will be banned because they all do it.

I can't remember much from last season to be fair, but I didn't watch United a lot last season either. The one I do remember was in the CF semi-final. There was minimal contact, and he stays up for a bit before noticing too many Arsenal players around him and he goes down. Credit to the ref, he didn't give it. (Actually kinda similar to Eboue's dive)

My point is not to single out Ronaldo though, it was the point out that he would very unlikely to ever be official called a diver in the way Eduardo was. Eduardo doesn't have a history of it, which is way I consider it unfair. If ever diver was given the same treatment then I am all for it.

What I am really asking is what causes Uefa to intervene?

Arthurgray50@blu · 02-09-2009, 17:02

I think ANY player who dives in the box, INSTANT RED, this is blatant cheating and unfair on the opposition.

Niles Crane · 03-09-2009, 00:45

Not for the faint hearted, this is perhaps the worst tackle and leg break i've ever seen. The guy even had the nerve to protest his innocence!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXubI41mk90

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Football: Belgians in uproar over ankle-crunching tackle
Standard Liege player Axel Witsel became highly unpopular with football fans on Sunday after putting Anderlecht's Marcin Wasilewski in hospital with a double ankle fracture.

Wasilewski, 29, underwent an operation after the 1-1 league draw on Sunday to reduce the fracture but, with an injury similar to the horrific one suffered by Arsenal's Eduardo in February 2008, he is expected to go under the knife again next week.

His club Anderlecht said the defender could be out for a year, meaning he will miss the World Cup finals if Poland qualifies.

http://www.expatica.com/be/news/belg...e-_55900.html#

moaningmags · 03-09-2009, 01:10

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Originally Posted by Niles Crane

Not for the faint hearted, this is perhaps the worst tackle and leg break i've ever seen. The guy even had the nerve to protest his innocence!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXubI41mk90

OMG That looks horrendous.

TheDaddy · 03-09-2009, 03:33

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Originally Posted by SB_07

Been in America for a week, would anyone be so kind as to give me a run down of the transfers? =)

Here you go, this full windows worth

Derek · 03-09-2009, 09:17

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OMG That looks horrendous.

He won't be on strictly come dancing this year thats for sure.

punky · 03-09-2009, 09:30

Witsel has been banned for 10 games, which is shockingly lenient considering it was deliberate. There has been bad blood between them for over a year and the challenge was a revenge one.

Witsel is also banned for 5 matches by UEFA for another horrific tackle he did on someone else. The guy's a lunatic.

Arthurgray50@blu · 03-09-2009, 11:04

This is why, l get so incensed when people say to me about players and managers argue with the referee about these tackles, Some manager admitted last night on Tv that some managers will tell a player ' to take him out', the worst tackle l have ever seen, and the player got away with it and that was Vinny Jones. Referee's have a hard job as it is, BUT these sort of tackles have to stop, and we see each week, where players go for the back of the legs etc. Straight red, and BANNED for the enitire time the other player is out for.