You are Prime Minister...
16-08-2009, 22:02
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Re: You are Prime Minister...
1. Ban morons (you know who you are!) from posting on forums. They can still use the web, but only for booking train tickets.
2. Bring in proportional representation (thank you Harmitage for reminding me)
3. Free cheese for all, except the morons from 1.
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16-08-2009, 22:21
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Re: You are Prime Minister...
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Originally Posted by Damien
There is not a job for everyone and your scheme seems to address this be creating masses of public sector jobs for which many people will simply not the qualified.
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Originally Posted by Stuart C
The fact is that there *isn't* a job for everyone in this world.
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Here is a list of jobs I found on Google http://www.career-descriptions.co.uk...of-careers.htm. Now I can sew a lot of disabled / elderly people that would be suited for some of these jobs, maybe not them all  but I'm sure there is at least one job that will be suitable for every person.
Of course there are those who are mentaly disabled/handicapped some prefer disabled, others handicapped, a few settle like being called special.
Of course I have seen a lot of special adults work through their disability and still manage to find love, get a job, have children and generally just live as normal a life as possible. It really depends on the individual and their own willpower.
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Originally Posted by Stuart C
If you are a medical student (as you state in the New Members thread), you seem to have a rather worrying lack of a grasp on disability. You can't just divide the disabled into those that can work and those that can't. You have to take some account of their disability.
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I thought I was supposed to be the Prime Minister? Not a medical student  .
I'm sure their would a board or comitee of folks who would sort through every individuals needs and give them the job that's perfect for them.
Though I do realise that there are few shades of grey when dealing with humans, a lot when dealing those who have problems and several if ther problems are special needs. But again it all depends on the individual and a Prime Minister must be their for the entire country not individuals.
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17-08-2009, 01:35
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Re: You are Prime Minister...
1. Cut the number of MP's in half, we don't need as many as we have
2. Bring in a form of PR
3. Have a really good hard look at what benefits being in the EU actually gives us and if not satisfied, get out.
4. Give the Scots a vote on independence
5. If still lumbered with Scotland, give the English a vote on Scottish independence
6. Re nationalise the railway
7. Drastically cut the nuclear defence budget and after consultations on whether we need it at all get a cheaper and fully independent alternative.
8. After making sure our current military commitments are catered for I'd make plans to cut conventional defense spending right back, once we are out of Afghanistan we wont make the mistake of trying to police the world again, we are a tiny island with limited needs for armed forces, what do we need with new aircraft carriers and the like.
9. Get rid of quangos
10. Make people accountable for their actions again, doesn't matter if you MP or chav you screw up your for it and it'll take far more than sorry or a letter from your mum to excuse it.
11. Bring back compulsory national service
12. Revamp the justice system with proper sentencing and proper rehabilitation, for instance no prisoner will leave jail still addicted to drugs or unable to read or write.
13. Get to the bottom of waste within the NHS
14. Give energy regulators teeth to stop us being screwed by foreign companies.
15. Make sure what remaining military we keep is look after properly, no sub standard equipment or living in rat holes and no quibbling over compo payments for the injured.
That'll do for now I guess, once you start though it's hard to stop
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17-08-2009, 05:46
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Re: You are Prime Minister...
Only three things? There are a lot more problems to address than that.
1) sort our the pensions timebomb - the country simply cannot afford to have all it's civil servants, local authority staff, NHS and related employees on the overly generous final salary type schemes. Increased spending isn't resulting in better services, it's propping up these slush funds and preventing better services.
2) sort out criminal justice system - no more namby pamby sentencing. Make it understandable to victim and criminal alike. If the sentence is 6 years, that's the time you serve.
3) make party election manifestos a legal obligation, not a wish list that can be cherry picked and ignored at a whim. If an elected government back tracks on it's promise it is forced to hold a new election. That way politicians might actually become accountable to their electorate.
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17-08-2009, 07:49
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Re: You are Prime Minister...
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10. Make people accountable for their actions again, doesn't matter if you MP or chav you screw up your for it and it'll take far more than sorry or a letter from your mum to excuse it.
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Some MPs tried to get out of the expenses thing with a letter from their mums 
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11. Bring back compulsory national service
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Sounds horrible to me. Not every child in a delinquent who needs to conscripted into national service. Some are perfectly responsible people who just want live out their lifes without unwarranted interference from the state.
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3) make party election manifestos a legal obligation, not a wish list that can be cherry picked and ignored at a whim. If an elected government back tracks on it's promise it is forced to hold a new election. That way politicians might actually become accountable to their electorate.
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I think this depends on what they are. I don't think it's realistic for a Government to be held accountible for all of their manifesto as Governments have to respond to events. Events which may well change the feasibility of their policies.
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Here is a list of jobs I found on Google http://www.career-descriptions.co.uk...of-careers.htm. Now I can sew a lot of disabled / elderly people that would be suited for some of these jobs, maybe not them all  but I'm sure there is at least one job that will be suitable for every person.
Of course there are those who are mentaly disabled/handicapped some prefer disabled, others handicapped, a few settle like being called special.
Of course I have seen a lot of special adults work through their disability and still manage to find love, get a job, have children and generally just live as normal a life as possible. It really depends on the individual and their own willpower.
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A list of jobs is not equal to their availability. There is a recession and massive job losses in this country at the moment. It's not possible for everyone to get a job in the best of times, let alone during a recession. Would people be unable to get unemployment benefit then?
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17-08-2009, 07:54
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Re: You are Prime Minister...
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I think this depends on what they are. I don't think it's realistic for a Government to be held accountible for all of their manifesto as Governments have to respond to events. Events which may well change the feasibility of their policies.
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But that is the fundamental problem with today's politics. It's precisely because the politicians say one thing and then go off and do something else, or don't do anything, that there is widespread distrust and suspicion.
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17-08-2009, 08:59
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Re: You are Prime Minister...
1 Overhaul the taxation system so that "everyone" pays a fair proportion according to income (rather than the lowest earners paying a higher proportion of their income than the highest earners).
2 Limit the banks interest charges to a certain percentage above the base rate (hopefully this will stop them making loans to those who cannot afford it).
3 Tai-Chi for everyone before they start work or school.
Plus everything Gaz said.
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17-08-2009, 09:02
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1 Overhaul the taxation system so that "everyone" pays a fair proportion according to income (rather than the lowest earners paying a higher proportion of their income than the highest earners).
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I thought this is how it worked. Top earners can reach 50% of their pay!
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17-08-2009, 11:02
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Re: You are Prime Minister...
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Sounds horrible to me. Not every child in a delinquent who needs to conscripted into national service. Some are perfectly responsible people who just want live out their lifes without unwarranted interference from the state.
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Didn't say they were, all would benefit from it though and if you don't fancy it, tuff I am in charge
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17-08-2009, 11:52
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Re: You are Prime Minister...
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Didn't say they were, all would benefit from it though and if you don't fancy it, tuff I am in charge 
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You better be careful, don't want to make my enemies list before/during my reign of terr..I mean "progress".
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17-08-2009, 12:11
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Re: You are Prime Minister...
LOL @ Xientie Stop the benefits and welfare program what a stupid idea LOL!.
So people like myself who is ill not through their own fault and cant work wouldnt be able to live there really are some small minded people.
these r mine.
1. Stop the immigration from other countries to the UK and help British Citizens over immigants to the UK.
2. Bring back corporal punishment. I do think if this is brough back to schools especially such as the cane then kids will start to have more respect and crime will start to dip after a few years.
3. People who have kids just because they dont want to work will be forced to work atleast 20hrs a week and childcare will be found for them.
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17-08-2009, 12:19
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Re: You are Prime Minister...
I am VERY surprised how many people are advocating changing the voting system to Proportional Representation
This silly system was the ONLY reason the BNP got 2 MEP seats. Whilst I agree we need some sort of reform we also need to keep out the lunitic fringe from all sides.
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17-08-2009, 12:29
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Re: You are Prime Minister...
My three would be -
a) Provide enough economic and political education to enable people to realise there are very rarely simple answers to very complex problems, and any solutions could take decades to implement and have an impact, and they can only be dealt with one step at a time (to make sure the changes implemented are having positive effects) - there are very rarely overnight simple quick fixes.
b) Provide equality of opportunity for all, regardless of sex, sexuality, ethnicity, religion, disability, etc.
c) MPs would be Independent, representing their constituency, selected by lottery for a maximum term of five years (think of it a long jury service).
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17-08-2009, 14:57
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Re: You are Prime Minister...
I would put in charge my 3 favourite politicians, and let them have fun trying to sort it all out. Don't ask me why, but I always like the baddies best!  1) Peter Mandleson 2) Michael Portillo 3) Boris Johnson.
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17-08-2009, 15:35
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Re: You are Prime Minister...
If l was PM for this country, l would implement with immediate effect;
1) BAN all immagrants from walking into this country, if you don't have a job or house/flat, you cannot come in.
2) The NHS is for the public who have resided in this country before 2005, after this date, you will have to pay for the health care.
3) Council poperty will only be given to those that ARE on the housing lists, and NOT who have just come into the country.
4) Employment Centres MUST give the first choice to people who have just been made redundant, or those on jobseekers with families.
5) This country must allow a benefit system that fits the persons needs, ie his last employment paid £16.000 per year, this is what the government will pay on a weekly basis. (other countries pay this, why can't we)
6) IF you are an immagrant, and you break British law, you WILL be deported,
7) IF you are in prison for a trivial offence, you will be allowed community service, to repay your debt to society.
9) IF you are a member of the armed service, no matter how long you serve, you will allowed FREE travel, flights, entertainment, football, medical care, private or NHS fastrak, to repay our debt to your commitment to our freedom.
10) OAP's will be given anything they need to live out there days, no more poverty.
11) NHS staff, ie GPs, Drs and Nurses will be given decent wages.
Where will all this money come from to back this all up, STOP the stupid wages paid to our MPs who sit on there backsides doing nothing but push a pen, go on very long holidays, my wages for this position, would be £20.000 per year, that is enough to live on, wait for our vote, stop all the finance that this government give out to other countries, where this country's need is far greater,.
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