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Old 16-08-2009, 18:33   #16
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Re: You are Prime Minister...

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What about the disabled and the elderly?
Babies, Children, Students and the Elderly will be excused from the reform.

Disabled men and woman who are able to work should be incouraged to do so. So who can't walk can work at computer stations ect. Their is a job for everyone in this world and a person to fit that job .

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they would be the new firemen he's on about
How can they be firemen? Are you drunk or something?
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Disabled men and woman who are able to work should be incouraged to do so. So who can't walk can work at computer stations ect. Their is a job for everyone in this world and a person to fit that job .

Are you going to fund my special computer?
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Old 16-08-2009, 18:41   #18
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Disabled men and woman who are able to work should be incouraged to do so. So who can't walk can work at computer stations ect. Their is a job for everyone in this world and a person to fit that job
There is not a job for everyone and your scheme seems to address this be creating masses of public sector jobs for which many people will simply not the qualified. Not to mention the wages of all these increased staff will be more than the respective benefits..
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Old 16-08-2009, 18:47   #19
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Babies, Children, Students and the Elderly will be excused from the reform.

Disabled men and woman who are able to work should be incouraged to do so. So who can't walk can work at computer stations ect. Their is a job for everyone in this world and a person to fit that job .



How can they be firemen? Are you drunk or something?
i wish i was your plan would make more sense
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Old 16-08-2009, 19:00   #20
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Babies, Children, Students and the Elderly will be excused from the reform.

Disabled men and woman who are able to work should be incouraged to do so. So who can't walk can work at computer stations ect. Their is a job for everyone in this world and a person to fit that job .
If you are a medical student (as you state in the New Members thread), you seem to have a rather worrying lack of a grasp on disability. You can't just divide the disabled into those that can work and those that can't. You have to take some account of their disability.

You would also need to find them a job that they were able to do. One example is Thomas T (above). He is legally blind (sorry if I am wrong Thomas, can't remember if you are blind or partially sighted). As such, he would need extra equipment and facilities where he worked. Such as screen readers and speakers/headphones for his PC, possibly a Braille keyboard. People with other disabilities may also need other changes to the environment or helpers. For instance, I work in a Uni computer lab. We had a quadraplegic student join one of our courses. We had to have a special workstation built (designed to accomodate his wheelchair which was a rather large vehicle) and he also needed a carer/secretary as he didn't have enough movement to manipulate a computer keyboard).

I've rambled a little but my central point is that there are a lot of potential jobs, but there are a lot less that are suitable for the disabled (no one would argue, for instance, that a wheelchair bound person would be a good brickie).

I think that it is good that the government has passed laws to force companies and other organisations to provide facilities for the disabled (although interestingly it was the Tories rather than the so called caring Labour Party that started the DDA), but they can't force employers to create jobs that aren't there.

The fact is that there *isn't* a job for everyone in this world.
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Old 16-08-2009, 19:16   #21
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Re: You are Prime Minister...

I knew this would be an interesting topic. (Gets more popcorn and sits back.)


If I was Prime Minister I would:

1) Re-assess the benefits and jobseekers system. Too much money is being handed out and some people are abusing the system big time. Money should be spent on opening new job oppportunities whereby if you don't find work, you get put into work or else you don't get any money - And thats tough luck if you don't want to work.

At the same time we need to put a stop to the ever-increasing university fees.
People deserve a free education and costs are now very expensive and the way the system works means that some people who are poor currently get to go in free whilst people who are slightly better off get dried out of all their savings as prices are too high.
Who wants our children to grow up in a world of debt?

2) The Policing in our country needs a complete shake up.
Too much time and money is wasted in tackling small crime.
In some cases someone who murders someone will do less time than someone who has done far less evil things.
Sentences need to be kept and not shortened down.
Too many rapists are let out and go and re-offend as soon as they are out.
Money needs to be spent on building bigger prisons or ideally buying an island and shipping all murders, rapists and child molesters there. Put some mines all around the island and they'l never escape. A safer world for all.

Most money for 1 & 2 above would come from stripping the hundreds of MP's of their freebies and second homes. It's a job like any other job and they don't deserve all these extras at our expense.

3) Health care should be available to all people who pay taxes. Not to anyone who flies in or comes to England on the back of a lorry to get free glasses.
Anyone who comes to the UK should be monitored for 6 months to make sure they are giving something back to the country or else ship them back.

Oh.... and free 100mb broadband for all.
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Old 16-08-2009, 19:35   #22
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As primeminister I would:-

1) protect the environment by:-
a) extracting methane from the atmosphere to use as fuel
b) growing more trees to absorb carbon dioxide
c) reducing industrial and car emissions
d) pumping oxygen and ozone back into the atmosphere to reduce pollution
e) setting up desalinisation plants around the coast
f) setting up cleaning and dredging schemes for rivers and waterways
g) growing more crops nationally by hydroponics to cut the use of fertilizers
h) providing a national gypsy site scheme
i) deterring fly-tipping & the dropping of litter
j) making biodiesel fuel from waste vegetable oil
k) growing crops for biofuel
l) encouraging & developing hybrid cars & other vehicles
m) setting up a national bio-economic network for protecting bees and other economy-related species
n) promoting the growth of endangered species on protected government sites by cloning or other means

2) protect the economy by:-
a) setting up fish farms round the UK
b) growing more of our own food
c) increasing the amount of manufacturing industry
d) giving government contracts to UK companies
e) setting up Eden project style farms in the cities
f) setting up storage facilities or processes for surplus food
g) getting employable workers into a job
h) setting up training in trade skills
i) creating more hydroelectricity plants nationally
j) turning waste building land into allotments
k) encouraging people to grow their own food
l) rationalising salaries nationally & cutting MP/Executive salaries
m) having a nationwide recycling scheme
n) setting up our own recycling facilities
o) setting up repair facilities to make old products last longer
p) importing more raw materials & fewer products
q) making people work for their benefits
r) building public utilities like power stations in safe places
s) nationalising the banks & ending the bonus culture
t) making all financial institutions subject to Bank Of England regulation
u) nationalising and regulating all buses and trains
v) developing a national high speed internet system
w) better development of road, rail & motorway networks
x) controlling immigration better
y) protecting school playing fields from sale

3) protect the population by:-
a) building more prisons and increasing the severity of sentences to deter crime
b) increasing the number of police on the streets with all officers having a police dog
c) re-introducing National Service to provide training and defence skills
d) fitting solar panels and wind-turbines to all houses to provide home power
f) re-routing river confluences to prevent flooding
g) building up coastal water defences to cope with rising water levels
h) reforming the national curriculum to teach children survival skills
i) not building inappropriate properties on river flood plains
j) re-designing houses and other buildings to be ecofriendly & exercise orientated
k) securing the nation's food and fuel supply
l) setting up NHS gyms nationwide
m) building better care homes
n) increasing the number of medical staff in hospitals
o) reducing massively the percentage of alcohol in alcoholic drinks
p) compulsory detoxing of all drug offenders
q) building buildings of a higher quality with more facilities
r) ensuring that all people can read, write and speak English to a high standard and are mathematically competent
s) reintroduce technical schools at secondary level to develop artistic/musical/technical/design/performing arts skills
t) encourage the learning of foreign languages

With that list it's probably a good idea if I didn't get the job!! LOL!!
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Old 16-08-2009, 19:36   #23
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I knew this would be an interesting topic. (Gets more popcorn and sits back.)



At the same time we need to put a stop to the ever-increasing university fees.
People deserve a free education and costs are now very expensive and the way the system works means that some people who are poor currently get to go in free whilst people who are slightly better off get dried out of all their savings as prices are too high.
Who wants our children to grow up in a world of debt?

have to agree with you on this .imo a large portion of the uni fees should be paid for by buisnesses based on the companies profit after all they are the ones who benefit

3) Health care should be available to all people who pay taxes. Not to anyone who flies in or comes to England on the back of a lorry to get free glasses.
Anyone who comes to the UK should be monitored for 6 months to make sure they are giving something back to the country or else ship them back.

absolutley right

Oh.... and free 100mb broadband for all.
now don't be greedy
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Old 16-08-2009, 19:42   #24
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Wow! That is quite a list ntluser!

I agree with you on re-nationalising public transport services.
It would mean more consistant, better quality services for all.
And in my opinion, less accidents.
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Old 16-08-2009, 19:56   #25
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big list, quite a bit of thought gone into ntluser although it has to be said that some of it is already being implemented like the national recycling scheme ,although it is implemented by local authorities it is i believe national .Car emisions are falling all the time
However wind turbines and solar panels on every house ,i'm not sure that would work ,some people can't even have a sky dish on the roof
building public services and utilies in safer places?we need them in cities and towns not in the middle of no-where which would probably be a protected area anyway
but i like some of your ideas
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Re: You are Prime Minister...

As Prime Minister I'd immediately begin the process of changing the current voting system so that the majority might actually have some people in parliament who represent how we want the the Country to be.

As it stands we realistically have a choice of 2 corrupt parties who have the sole purpose of attaining/retaining power.

I know I'm probably living in cloud cuckoo land. but is there anything wrong with aspiring to live in a land where you can vote for a free thinking, public spirited individual as opposed to Mr BA in politics towing the party line. To be honest most career politicians give me the dry boak. They have no opinion about anything until they have a consultation with the current Spin master. I would rather have politicians with real conviction than the unprincipled crowd we are likely to have in the next parliament.....

I agree with some of the proposals from other CF posters....., and disagree with others but at least in my ideal parliament they would all have a chance being heard.
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1) Remove My Enemies from Life

2) Abolish Voting

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4) PROFIT!!!!!
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Re: You are Prime Minister...

Erm not sure of how to word this but here goes

1. Improve the NHS
We shouldn't have to wait for appointments or fight for medication.

2. Improve the benefits system
More help for those that need it and more support to the unemployed......don't just ship them off on a course to make your figures seem better, actually help them into work for once. Also figure out way to weed out those who are just "playing the game".

3. Tighten Immigration.
And for those already in the country I think they should at least learn English and attempt to adapt to the way of life here.
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1 Abolish distinction between personal capital gains and labour gains.

Currently there is a separate allowance for capital gains, for which only those with assets can benefit from. I would scrap this allowance and increase the income tax allowance by the same value. Whilst at the same time, I would scrap the distinction between National Insurance and Income tax and have just one rate but with a view to eventually reducing it to a low percentage.

At the same time I would eliminate the capital gains tax exemption on residential houses as this currently exaggerates the swings in the housing market and if people have to sell their house at a loss, at least a rebate from the government would enable them to start afresh.

Consumption taxes would be increased where needed to fund changes but not on zero rated essentials. This would mean that the wealthy would have to pay more tax, rather than use some elaborate tax dodge to avoid paying.

2 Be friendly to Russia

Don't want to be, but it will become more important in the future to keep energy supplies flowing.

3 Make prison sentences minimum not maximum

At the same time prisons would offer living conditions which give them the bare level required as per human rights - something like POWs have

If a prisoner, on release re-offends then they also have to serve their previous sentence as they haven't been rehabilitated enough
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Old 16-08-2009, 21:51   #30
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Well the OP said choose 3 things, so here goes

1. Abolish the 'whip', have MPs elected on the basis of their policies for the areas they represent & allow free votes on every bill introduced by those MPs.

2. Abolish the road fund licence & put the tax directly on fuel, so that the biggest users pay in proportion - but make sure the income is used not only to improve roads, but also to subsidise public transport.

3. Abolish all forms of 'league tables' & 'targets' in government - allow the NHS, Police Force, Education Service, etc to follow best practice & reduce the bureaucracy required for 'performance monitoring' .
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