Virgin launch Customer Forum - Page 9

webcrawler2050 · 15-08-2009, 15:31

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Originally Posted by Ben B

That jaffacake member really annoys me on some of his sarcy posts

Yep - thus the reason, why I aint been there in a few days - I didn think about taking his head off and making him look a fool but then decided I couldn't be bothered..

Correct... That forum is really getting my pent up - people swaying "ADSL" Is not always on.. really getting me pent up..

15-08-2009, 15:42

The last few days ive been informed that ADSL is the same as dial up and is not an always on connection lol lol

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Originally Posted by Ben B

That jaffacake member really annoys me on some of his sarcy posts

he is a real plank

webcrawler2050 · 15-08-2009, 15:44

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Originally Posted by zing

The last few days ive been informed that ADSL is the same as dial up and is not an always on connection lol lol

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he is a real plank

Yep - just seen it dude.. jesus christ, that place is full of "I think I know what I'm doing but really I dont!"

15-08-2009, 15:47

They are going to have trouble solving problems for members if that is the quality of some of the posters

webcrawler2050 · 15-08-2009, 15:48

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Originally Posted by zing

They are going to have trouble solving problems for members if that is the quality of some of the posters

Yep, i;'m just gonna hound that bloke everytime he says something..

Raistlin · 15-08-2009, 15:53

Ok, 2 things.

1) In the ADSL settings on my router I have the option to have it "Connect on Demand" where I can specifiy an idle time, and to "Keep Alive". If I select the first then the router goes through its dialing routine and connects me to my ISP, if I select the latter option then it keeps me connected all the time. This would suggest that the ADSL connection isn't 'up' (or indeed 'on') unless my router has dialled in and authenticated. Whereas a Cable connection always has a connection to the ISP at the other end when there's a modem connected to it and the account is provisioned. This suggests to me that ADSL therefore is not in fact 'always on', but that to all intents and purposed it is because that's how most people either perceive it or have their equipment set up.

2) It would probably be best to refrain from having a dig at Members on VM's official forum via this site. If you have an issue with a Member over there then it's best to address it through that forum, I would hate to see the good relationship that Cable Forum has built up with VM over the years spoiled by silly feuds between Members on the various forums. Thanks

Ben B · 15-08-2009, 15:54

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Originally Posted by webcrawler2050

Yep, i;'m just gonna hound that bloke everytime he says something..

Haha. Did you see the reply jaffacake posted after my post about "Negative Kudos" in the feed back section

webcrawler2050 · 15-08-2009, 15:56

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Originally Posted by Ben B

Haha. Did you see the reply jaffacake posted after my post about "Negative Kudos" in the feed back section

Yep - I see the slight "hint" there...

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Originally Posted by Rob M

Ok, 2 things.

1) In the ADSL settings on my router I have the option to have it "Connect on Demand" where I can specifiy an idle time, and to "Keep Alive". If I select the first then the router goes through its dialing routine and connects me to my ISP, if I select the latter option then it keeps me connected all the time. This would suggest that the ADSL connection isn't 'up' (or indeed 'on') unless my router has dialled in and authenticated. Whereas a Cable connection always has a connection to the ISP at the other end when there's a modem connected to it and the account is provisioned. This suggests to me that ADSL therefore is not in fact 'always on', but that to all intents and purposed it is because that's how most people either perceive it or have their equipment set up.

2) It would probably be best to refrain from having a dig at Members on VM's official forum via this site. If you have an issue with a Member over there then it's best to address it through that forum, I would hate to see the good relationship that Cable Forum has built up with VM over the years spoiled by silly feuds between Members on the various forums. Thanks

ADSL is always on - no matter what, unless theres some "issue"

Raistlin · 15-08-2009, 15:56

So if it's 'always on' why do ADSL routers have to 'dial' and then provide authentication credentials each time you turn them on?

15-08-2009, 15:58

why is the MAC address of a cable modem used to log onto the system then?

The signal is always present on the line it does not switch off when you turn your router off . Dial up creates its own connection when it dials and connects

webcrawler2050 · 15-08-2009, 16:00

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Originally Posted by Rob M

So if it's 'always on' why do ADSL routers have to 'dial' and then provide authentication credentials each time you turn them on?

Thats the point - just there dude, when turned on - the same is said on VM modems, just in a different way with the MAC address - if you leave your modem on 24/7 then it's always on - if you turn it off, then it can't ever be always on, can it?

tdadyslexia · 15-08-2009, 16:00

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Originally Posted by Ben B

That jaffacake member really annoys me on some of his sarcy posts

Me to, I am on the end of a number of them from him.

Woops My Username on there is: Midnight_Caller

Raistlin · 15-08-2009, 16:03

Dunno

Just know that if I take my router out of 'keep alive' mode my ISP drops the connections if I've been idle for a while. I know that BT do the same thing. Obviously there's nothing to stop me re-connecting whenever I like.

webcrawler2050 · 15-08-2009, 16:03

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Originally Posted by Rob M

Dunno

Just know that if I take my router out of 'keep alive' mode my ISP drops the connections if I've been idle for a while. I know that BT do the same thing. Obviously there's nothing to stop me re-connecting whenever I like.

Well it's common sense really dude? If the modem is on - it's "always on" if it's turned off, of course, it's not always on..

Raistlin · 15-08-2009, 16:05

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Originally Posted by webcrawler2050

Thats the point - just there dude, when turned on - the same is said on VM modems, just in a different way with the MAC address - if you leave your modem on 24/7 then it's always on - if you turn it off, then it can't ever be always on, can it?

Surely the signal's always there though with Cable, regardless of whether the modem's on or off. The only thing that's there with ADSL when the modem's off is the standard telephone signal.

TBH I don't really care, and we're way off topic, I guess there are merits to both arguments - probably best to agree to disagree and get back to the purpose of the thread