Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)

[STONEISLAND]

Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23

why not do it on the channel? you can set thing to record on the guide on screen

Yes you can but not 3 - 4 days ahead!

Not TV guide its the Planner?

[Felim_Doyle]

Originally Posted by akki007

No. I don't accept that. TV is TV, house size doesn't matter, you don't buy a big TV and sit 50 foot away do you! You buy a TV and sit 8-12 foot away regardless of screen size.

No, house size definitely does matter. The sofa goes along one wall and the TV goes along the wall opposite. So, if you have a big living room, you need a big TV screen to be able to see it at that distance (or use binoculars). Conversely, in a standard sized living room, sitting too close to a huge screen would be like sitting six rows in front of the first row at the cinema. You'd strain your neck scanning from left to right and up and down and still miss some of the action.

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Originally Posted by royaltiger

My 50" pioneer plasma takes up less space than my old 36" tv, It only sticks out 3" off the wall where the tv was about 60" in depth, If size made no differance we'd still have 12" portable's, Go for it and get one you'll never look back .

Ah! More apples and pears!

We're talking about screen dimensions here, the diagonal or viewable area, not the depth, which is the difference between having a CRT and a flat panel display. In your case that's almost 60 inches - five feet - are you sure your old set was that deep?

Of course a flat panel will be a bit further away if it's mounted on the wall so a slightly bigger screen might be of benefit. If you go for a projector screen then you can save on several rolls of wallpaper too!

[royaltiger]

Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle

No, house size definitely does matter. The sofa goes along one wall and the TV goes along the wall opposite. So, if you have a big living room, you need a big TV screen to be able to see it at that distance (or use binoculars). Conversely, in a standard sized living room, sitting too close to a huge screen would be like sitting six rows in front of the first row at the cinema. You'd strain your neck scanning from left to right and up and down and still miss some of the action.

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Ah! More apples and pears!

We're talking about screen dimensions here, the diagonal or viewable area, not the depth, which is the difference between having a CRT and a flat panel display. In your case that's almost 60 inches - five feet - are you sure your old set was that deep?

Of course a flat panel will be a bit further away if it's mounted on the wall so a slightly bigger screen might be of benefit. If you go for a projector screen then you can save on several rolls of wallpaper too!

It was huge took two to lift, i shall try and remember model, all I remember was how deep it was from front to back, also could not get it in the car

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This was the model, got my inches and centimetres mixed up it was 58 cm not inches
http://guildford.gumtree.com/guildford/39/40539139.html

[zantarous]

Originally Posted by royaltiger

Dolby Digital, or AC-3, is the common version containing up to six discrete channels of sound. The most elaborate mode in common usage involves five channels for normal-range speakers (20 Hz – 20,000 Hz) (right front, center, left front, right rear and left rear) and one channel (20 Hz – 120 Hz allotted audio) for the subwoofer driven low-frequency effects.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolby_D...#Dolby_Digital

My point was you should be listening to Dolby Digital as it was made for and that is a 6:1 sound system, and not in stereo which is what we are getting

No Dolby Digital can have any configurtion between 1.0 - 7.1. YOu are using Pro logic two on your amp which which will take any two channel source and do a better hob of making a 5.1 signal then old pro logic.

My amp does not have pro logic two so reports the raw signal and it is Dolby Digital 2.0. Only the non HD channels show up as pro logic. Pro logic and Pro logic II are just sound mixing formats.

[royaltiger]

Originally Posted by zantarous

No Dolby Digital can have any configurtion between 1.0 - 7.1. YOu are using Pro logic two on your amp which which will take any two channel source and do a better hob of making a 5.1 signal then old pro logic.

My amp does not have pro logic two so reports the raw signal and it is Dolby Digital 2.0. Only the non HD channels show up as pro logic. Pro logic and Pro logic II are just sound mixing formats.

My amp is picking up its raw signal and its not Dolby Digital, its Pro Logic II, the only time it changes is on the HD channels where it then recieves a Dolby Digital 6:1 signal, That is what I was saying that its a stereo signal converted to Pro logic II

[musicbravo]

isnt broadcasted Dolby Digital usually 5.1?

[Felim_Doyle]

Originally Posted by royaltiger

It was huge took two to lift, i shall try and remember model, all I remember was how deep it was from front to back, also could not get it in the car

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This was the model, got my inches and centimetres mixed up it was 58 cm not inches
http://guildford.gumtree.com/guildford/39/40539139.html

Aha! I should have guessed that. I found it alien to quote feet and inches in my reply postings. Personally I think we should all be talking metric here.

Anyway, I doubt you'd get a 50" flat panel display into a Smart car or a Nissan Micra either. It's beginning to sound like tail wagging dog. To own a 50"+ flat panel you need a bigger car to get it home and a bigger home to view it in.

I have a 5" B&W set that can operate from batteries, mains or the car lighter socket. You can watch it comfortably in 'the smallest room in the house' with the telescopic aerial or a co-ax feed from the RF out of the VM STB. It's not HD, it's not widescreen, it's not stereo, it's not even colour but you never have to miss a programme!

It was a mixup between imperial and metric that caused the loss of the Mars Climate Orbiter.

[royaltiger]

Originally Posted by musicbravo

isnt broadcasted Dolby Digital usually 5.1?

Sort of but really its 6 as you add a sub bass or sub woofer, to take the low frequency from your main speakers. So usually you would have Two front speakers, Two Rear Speakers and a Centre speaker for 5:1, but 6:1 you have a seperate speaker to deal with low bass levels and 7:1 is two seperate speakers for low bass. You would be surprised how much difference in sound quality is lost from not having a speaker that can deal with the low frequencies.

[musicbravo]

Sort of but really its 6 as you add a sub bass or sub woofer, to take the low frequency from your main speakers. So usually you would have Two front speakers, Two Rear Speakers and a Centre speaker for 5:1, but 6:1 you have a seperate speaker to deal with low bass levels and 7:1 is two seperate speakers for low bass. You would be surprised how much difference in sound quality is lost from not having a speaker that can deal with the low frequencies.

urm the .1 is the LFE the 5 is the front L/R, centre and rear L/R

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6.1 adds a rear centre.

[zantarous]

That is because you are using Pro Logic II which will take a stereo source and upconvert it. My amp clearly shows the Dolby Digital light lighting up. DD can be any one of the following 1.0, 2.0, 2.1, 4.0, 4.1, 5.1, 6.1 and 7.1

Keep in mind that "Dolby Digital" does not necessarily equate to "Dolby Digital 5.1 DD is just an encoding system.

[TMLeafs]

Originally Posted by zantarous

That is because you are using Pro Logic II which will take a stereo source and upconvert it. My amp clearly shows the Dolby Digital light lighting up. DD can be any one of the following 1.0, 2.0, 2.1, 4.0, 4.1, 5.1, 6.1 and 7.1

Keep in mind that "Dolby Digital" does not necessarily equate to "Dolby Digital 5.1 DD is just an encoding system.

Mines saying DD and its changing from 5.1 or 2.1. MTV is on 5.1 the most with all the live sets

[musicbravo]

Originally Posted by zantarous

That is because you are using Pro Logic II which will take a stereo source and upconvert it. My amp clearly shows the Dolby Digital light lighting up. DD can be any one of the following 1.0, 2.0, 2.1, 4.0, 4.1, 5.1, 6.1 and 7.1

Keep in mind that "Dolby Digital" does not necessarily equate to "Dolby Digital 5.1 DD is just an encoding system.

Originally Posted by TMLeafs

Mines saying DD and its changing from 5.1 or 2.1. MTV is on 5.1 the most with all the live sets

Exactimondo

[TheDon]

Originally Posted by royaltiger

My amp is picking up its raw signal and its not Dolby Digital, its Pro Logic II, the only time it changes is on the HD channels where it then recieves a Dolby Digital 6:1 signal, That is what I was saying that its a stereo signal converted to Pro logic II

But the raw signal is not pro logic II, that's just the processing technology your amp uses to make a stereo signal into surround. The Pro Logic II light is just saying "I'm getting a stereo signal, and I'm converting it to surround sound".

The raw audio signal on HD channels is always Dolby Digital, it's just not always surround sound, and your amp only tells you it is DD when it's surround, else it just tells you that it's using PLII to recreate surround sound.

[TMLeafs]

Originally Posted by musicbravo

Exactimondo

I find that any audio in 2.1 is very quite im having to increase the volume by 25%

[royaltiger]

The raw signal is stereo being converted to Pro Logic yes I agree, and that is the signal we are all getting right. Not Dolby Digital that signal is only on the HD channels if your lucky. As for Dolby Digital 2, I cannot find any reference to that signal on the Dolby website. Or am I confusing myself