Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009) - Page 197

Interesting Ian · 03-08-2009, 20:25

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Originally Posted by moroboshi

If you think upscaling is almost as good as HD (which it technically clearly isn't) then you must either have a small TV, a poor quality TV, be sitting too far away from the TV, have poor eyesight, or any combination of those.

On my TV some of the SD channels look almost as good as HD. I bought my TV in July 2007 on the strength of a review which said that sometimes the SD picture was so good that initially they thought they were viewing an HD programme.

My TV is not poor quality. It's a 32 inch and cost Â£950 2 years ago.

xbox180 · 03-08-2009, 20:31

watched ugly betty on 4hd yesterday. Not my thing really but absolutely stunning in true hd. Whenever a program is broadcast in hd on 4 the 4hd logo appears, doesnt happen very often.

TheDon · 03-08-2009, 20:34

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Originally Posted by moroboshi

SD will go away, just as black and white and 4:3 ratio did before it.

4:3 hasn't gone away though. There's still plenty of stuff still made in 4:3 these days, and there's still a ton of channels that broadcast in 4:3.

SD isn't going to go away for a long time, there just simply isn't the bandwidth available for every channel to go HD, and for many channels the cost in equipment upgrades isn't worth it as they don't show anything worth being in HD.

Andrewcrawford23 · 03-08-2009, 20:49

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Originally Posted by TheDon

4:3 hasn't gone away though. There's still plenty of stuff still made in 4:3 these days, and there's still a ton of channels that broadcast in 4:3.

SD isn't going to go away for a long time, there just simply isn't the bandwidth available for every channel to go HD, and for many channels the cost in equipment upgrades isn't worth it as they don't show anything worth being in HD.

I was shocked to find ther was sometihn mad ein black and white 4 or 5 years ago, just the peopel makign it could not afford a colour camera!!!!!! but 4:3 is still very widely used as you said

TheDon · 03-08-2009, 21:02

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Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23

I was shocked to find ther was sometihn mad ein black and white 4 or 5 years ago, just the peopel makign it could not afford a colour camera!!!!!! but 4:3 is still very widely used as you said

One of my favourite movies (Clerks) was made in '94 and it's black and white for that reason, and it's considered a cult classic.

BenMcr · 03-08-2009, 21:09

Indeed Black and White can be used for Artistic reasons.

Remember you can have HD B&W

Raitei · 03-08-2009, 21:20

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Originally Posted by TheDon

One of my favourite movies (Clerks) was made in '94 and it's black and white for that reason, and it's considered a cult classic.

i was about to mention the same movie, was quite sad when clerks 2 turned colour

zantarous · 03-08-2009, 21:24

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Originally Posted by royaltiger

I think its only Nat Geo that has been broadcasting true HD since all HD channels have come on as its the only channel showing dolby digital on the amp, all others are pro logic as the SD channels. That was one of the things I was looking forward to the improvement in sound quality.

Both FX and MTV are broadcasting in Dolby digital, and IMO MTV, especially live recordings, have looked stunning.

xbox180 · 03-08-2009, 21:42

live broadcasts do look especially good in hd, eurovision song contest on bbc hd was stunning, its a pity about the songs though

royaltiger · 03-08-2009, 21:46

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Originally Posted by zantarous

Both FX and MTV are broadcasting in Dolby digital, and IMO MTV, especially live recordings, have looked stunning.

Everytime I have watched they are pro logic, they may switch from dolby digital but each time I switched over its always been pro logic only nat geo seems continuous dolby digital until adverts, which I must admit I thought they would be digital also.

Stephen · 03-08-2009, 22:05

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Originally Posted by royaltiger

Everytime I have watched they are pro logic, they may switch from dolby digital but each time I switched over its always been pro logic only nat geo seems continuous dolby digital until adverts, which I must admit I thought they would be digital also.

All HD channels are always in Dolby Digital, however its not always 5.1 there are plentyof progs that are just Dolby Digital 2.0 as reported by my amp.

03-08-2009, 22:28

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Originally Posted by TheDon

4:3 hasn't gone away though. There's still plenty of stuff still made in 4:3 these days, and there's still a ton of channels that broadcast in 4:3.

Remember allot of new SD programs are now down converted HD ones

zantarous · 03-08-2009, 23:05

Outside of animated shows I am struggling to think of many US or UK produced shows that are still in 4:3 apart from the very cheap US talk shows. Everything else is 16x9

TheDon · 03-08-2009, 23:27

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Originally Posted by zantarous

Outside of animated shows I am struggling to think of many US or UK produced shows that are still in 4:3 apart from the very cheap US talk shows. Everything else is 16x9

The Wire only finished up last year and that was 4:3

zantarous · 03-08-2009, 23:57

Probably as it started of in 4:3, shows don't like to change OAR during their run.