Failed mother of 13 pregnant again!

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Kymmy

Just told my partner about this one and their comment was that it's a good excuse for a trail on permenant sterilization of people like this...

and I tend to agree

It wasn't that long ago we used to do just that, 40-50 years ago perhaps and for a lot less than knocking out 13 kids

[Kymmy]

OMG, they're from Luton, only about 6 miles away from me, they live on marsh farm estate to be exact which is an area I go through sometimes and even with two big doggies in the car I still lock the door.

Originally Posted by Kymmy

Just told my partner about this one and their comment was that it's a good excuse for a trail on permenant sterilization of people like this...

and I tend to agree

Here here. Stich her up so she can't have anymore and before the human rights people start lambasting my post I don't care, people like her need sterilizing to protect anymore children she decides to bring into this world.

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

It wasn't that long ago we used to do just that, 40-50 years ago perhaps and for a lot less than knocking out 13 kids

One woman I know got sterilized under orders from the Social Services, she had 5 kids all with different men, the Social Services got involved and forced her to be sterilized to protect herself and the rest of her children. This was about 20 years ago when we were in the real world and not this PC society we are in today.

Saw this story and i couldn't believe the attitude of this woman with the "i will keep having them till they let me keep one". How about love you get off your back a bit more be a decent mother in the first place and then you would still have the first one. Then you wouldn't need to keep knocking them out so they become a problem for a lot of people instead of just you and your productive hubby (only way he does seem to be productive).

Seriously this woman has to be stopped, i am assuming though perhaps wrongly that social services wouldn't have taken 13 away from her without good reason. If it was good enough to remove 13 kids it is good enough to have her sterilised to prevent her bringing more into the world where they will wait to be rescued from this truly terrible human being.

I don't normally call for anyones benefit to be stopped but in this case i think it should be. If she can go through this many pregnancies i am sure there is work she could be doing. Also maybe if he wasn't up all night making babies or seeing to them (till they are removed) the husband might have enough energy to get a job as well.

I'd say that both her, and her scrub partner both deserve sterilization. Not just because they are (most likely crap parents) a danger to any child they have, but also because they are obviously diluting the gene-pool.

People like this make me want to puke....

[LondonRoad]

Originally Posted by Earl of Bronze

I'd say that both her, and her scrub partner both deserve sterilization. Not just because they are (most likely crap parents) a danger to any child they have, but also because they are obviously diluting the gene-pool.

People like this make me want to puke....

I hate it when people sit on the fence.

What do you really think of them?

Originally Posted by harmitage

I hate it when people sit on the fence.

What do you really think of them?

Trying to read a string of starred out words, having had my colourful, yet inarticulate swearing on a public forum, sanitised by the system would make for boring reading I fear.

[frogstamper]

Originally Posted by Earl of Bronze

Trying to read a string of starred out words, having had my colourful, yet inarticulate swearing on a public forum, sanitised by the system would make for boring reading I fear.

What I find almost incomprehensible is that people of this ilk seem to be more than happy to expose themselves in the press and on crappy TV shows like Jeremy Kyle, do they honestly think they are going to gain the publics sympathy?
Surely if you'd made that many mistakes in your life you'd want to keep your head down, not go shouting from the rooftops woe is me...have they not one iota of shame?

No they are completely shameless and proud of it most of the time and also very deluded and do think they have a story that deserves sympathy. While i feel that in some cases in this country the benefits system is not fair to a great many that deserve it's help there is a small group who do not deserve to be on benefit and thats what we have here.

They clearly have time and energy to waste and i believe in thier case they should be made to make far better use of both for their own and the countrys good in general. Until we tighten up the benefit system something which no genuine claimant has a problem with if done correctly, we will continue to see examples like this and the media will report them as it suits their agenda that all on benefit are of the same low moral and ethical standing as these people.

Something that is completely untrue in the vast majority of cases and i for one despise these people and all they stand for, they do not represent me or any claimant i know.

[Pia]

Gawd they're blatant inbreds, no wonder some of the kids have got illnesses .

She should be sterilised for definite, or if not, sent to prison. There shouldn't be any "human rights" when she's allowed to keep breeding and can't/won't look after her own kids. Especially when she's breeding with her cousin/dad/uncle/brother (all of those).

Well let us hope that there are complications, enough for her to be sterilised this time.

what's the betting that in a few weeks time she's back in the papers having been "spied on" by the social and caught out walking normally (which i understand is her disability).She's drawn attention to herself now so they will be watching
As a partnership they get over a £1000 pm ,thats more than my wife who is working .
stop the benefits they get while a full investigation is done into why they get these benefits ,if it is found that she genuinely does have a disability then give her a wheel chair and send her out to work ,after all every employer in the country has to have disabled amenities to accommodate any worker with a disability,so she can't use that as an excuse for not working .
I am sick and tired of supporting spongers like these with the taxes i pay ,what happened to all the tough talk from Blair/brown about clamping down on benefit fraud it seems to me that when they come across a case like this they shy away from it because it means someone will have to make a tough decision and might lead to criticism of the government ,well that's tough ,make the damn decisions get these people off benefits drag them by the hair if necessary to the job center and force them to take any job that they are physically capable of doing

rant over...feel better now

[rogerdraig]

hmm forced sterilisation of those we consider inferior in morals etc


very dangerous road

(NOTE i dont support her or think what she is doing is good or that so much money should go their way )

Originally Posted by rogermevans

hmm forced sterilisation of those we consider inferior in morals etc


very dangerous road

(NOTE i dont support her or think what she is doing is good or that so much money should go their way )

that's why i havn't mentioned sterilisation in the above rant because that is not the answer ,however tempting it is to place ourselves on a moral pedastal that is a very dangerous road to go down
there will always be people who are not fit to be parents so i think the best way to deal with them is to take the kids off them and give the kids to a loving family who want them ,there are plenty of them

Just as a note for some of those that might not be aware yes the laws on disability are there but the reality of them does not always mean a disabled person could realistically work as i have found out myself. Main example being a workplace that made arrangements for disabled people to be carried into the building which sounds great till you find out the button to request the help was at the top of a flight of twenty stairs .

These people deserve absolutely no sympathy and i highly doubt they are legitimate claimants in that they could find employment if they tried which i have no doubt also they are not trying. As for forced sterilisation i agree in 99.9% of cases i would oppose it completely but in cases like this where we are talking about 13 kids already taken into care and adopted\fostered at a cost of millions apparently and a 14th on the way this is a case where i believe the courts should be able to make a judgement.

Until we get rid of people like this from the benefit system it makes it all too easy to minimalise the system as a whole and to make all claimants look like sponging freeloaders which is the impression our media would like every working person to have.

Just as lousy parents, bad teenagers and criminals in general are only a tiny percentage of the country as a whole so are ******* fraudulent claimants and if we lose sight of that we risk the system being no use to anyone no matter what their circumstance which is something i think would be as bad as forced sterilisation as a general attitude.