Postal strike on friday....again

[STONEISLAND]

Originally Posted by Russ B

Regardless, it's not a pittance by any stretch of the imagination.

I'm not disputing that IMO its a very fair wage!

[injuneer]

Originally Posted by Russ B

A pittance?!

Are we living on the same planet?!

It's Ok if you are single & not trying to raise a family.

[Russ]

Granted but you did say 'by any standards'. For me it would just be my daughter and I so a regular income of £20k would be most welcome.

I doubt i will notice they are on strike three times in the last two weeks we got our delivery at 20:20 which is not exactly helpful and routinely don't get any post till 15:00. They might have a grievence with their employers but striking right now is simply not the way to go as many people are having a much harder time then post office workers and don't have the luxury of being able to strike. You took the job if you didn't know what you were joining or how it might change then your ignorance is not my fault and i shouldn't have to suffer for it and neither should anyone else. Be grateful right now to have a job as i know over 40 people that have recently lost thiers and more join that each week.

[ZrByte]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

I doubt i will notice they are on strike three times in the last two weeks we got our delivery at 20:20 which is not exactly helpful and routinely don't get any post till 15:00. They might have a grievence with their employers but striking right now is simply not the way to go as many people are having a much harder time then post office workers and don't have the luxury of being able to strike. You took the job if you didn't know what you were joining or how it might change then your ignorance is not my fault and i shouldn't have to suffer for it and neither should anyone else. Be grateful right now to have a job as i know over 40 people that have recently lost thiers and more join that each week.

20:20? Thats actually Illegal if I recall correctly. 15:00 doesn't surprise me in the slightest as I often finish only slightly before then due to poor management in our delivery office. If I remember correctly the mail should not be delivered any later than 17:00 though I think there are special exceptions to that rule, I doubt they would apply three times within two weeks.

I'm not sure I understand your point there, On the one hand you say we are lucky to have the right to strike but then on the other you condemn us for exercising that right? I also really don't see how any of us could have predicted how the company would change so I also don't see how you can call that ignorant of us.
FYI Royal mail is trying to further downsize its workforce, and force the remainder to take on their work for less pay. This for a company that is struggling could be understandable though I don't think any workforce would lie down and accept this without any negotiation. Add to this the fact that royal mail isn't struggling anymore and actually doubled its profits last year then I think some may understand why mass redundancies etc are met with such opposition.

At the end of it all really it's kind of a moot point. Royal Mail will be sold in the next couple of years (Probably to DHL or TnT) whatever internal or public opinion on the matter is. Standard mail delivery will likely stop within 5 or 10 years as predicted mail volumes drop and your friendly neighbourhood postie will probably either be replaced by a van driver or a motorcycle courier. I would imagine postage costs will also rise and those of you who complain about getting what little mail you get at 15:00 will likely be in for a shock as that will likely increase to 17:00 - 20:00.

STONEISLAND: Postmen in my part of the country are on 16.5K pa full time. I am on 13K pa for a part time contract.
And I don't have a link the milkman wage I quoted, this was the figure I had quoted to me when I was looking into becoming a milkman just before I started working for Royal Mail.

[Osem]

The question for me is whether the union's policy of strike action will actually improve the prospects and conditions of their membership or ultimately see the demise of a troublesome state owned monopoly as happened with the miners. I fear the latter.

[ZrByte]

Originally Posted by Osem

The question for me is whether the union's policy of strike action will actually improve the prospects and conditions of their membership or ultimately see the demise of a troublesome state owned monopoly as happened with the miners. I fear the latter.

I agree. I have actually voted against the strike each time I have had the opportunity as I don't see it doing much good. Though if the majority vote for a strike I will support them 100%.
On a more positive note, as I said earlier, the posties are actually happy (ish) at the moment, its the mailcentres that are striking and though one cant function without the other it's only less than a quarter of that workforce that is striking so I really doubt this will impact most people.

[STONEISLAND]

Originally Posted by ZrByte

20:20? Thats actually Illegal if I recall correctly. 15:00 doesn't surprise me in the slightest as I often finish only slightly before then due to poor management in our delivery office. If I remember correctly the mail should not be delivered any later than 17:00 though I think there are special exceptions to that rule, I doubt they would apply three times within two weeks.

I'm not sure I understand your point there, On the one hand you say we are lucky to have the right to strike but then on the other you condemn us for exercising that right? I also really don't see how any of us could have predicted how the company would change so I also don't see how you can call that ignorant of us.
FYI Royal mail is trying to further downsize its workforce, and force the remainder to take on their work for less pay. This for a company that is struggling could be understandable though I don't think any workforce would lie down and accept this without any negotiation. Add to this the fact that royal mail isn't struggling anymore and actually doubled its profits last year then I think some may understand why mass redundancies etc are met with such opposition.

At the end of it all really it's kind of a moot point. Royal Mail will be sold in the next couple of years (Probably to DHL or TnT) whatever internal or public opinion on the matter is. Standard mail delivery will likely stop within 5 or 10 years as predicted mail volumes drop and your friendly neighbourhood postie will probably either be replaced by a van driver or a motorcycle courier. I would imagine postage costs will also rise and those of you who complain about getting what little mail you get at 15:00 will likely be in for a shock as that will likely increase to 17:00 - 20:00.

STONEISLAND: Postmen in my part of the country are on 16.5K pa full time. I am on 13K pa for a part time contract.
And I don't have a link the milkman wage I quoted, this was the figure I had quoted to me when I was looking into becoming a milkman just before I started working for Royal Mail.

Good post!!

By the sounds of what YOU say YOU have every right to say you want more money!

[icestar2]

Originally Posted by ZrByte

Out of interest what part of the Wirral do you live in? Don't need a full address, just wondering if you live within my Offices delivery area.

I sent you a PM m8. As I said we've had a new post-person the last couple days and no problems I just hope they dont put the other guy back on our route.

I couldn't believe it either first time it happend heard the letterbox going and thought it was one of those free papers you get then saw the postman walking down the drive. I just don't see how striking right now is going to do you any good whatsoever in terms of your management or the public it seems a negative move for the postal workers to make at this time. Striking is all well and good but not if you do more damage then good and i am not sure your taking the public with you on this issue as many of the public are having a harder time and see the royal mail as a far safer job to have right now then many have.

End of the day i find it funny in one way that it is the tories that are constantly painted as the privatisation bad guys and here we have the party of the people carrying through one of the most unpopular privatisations in history and taking no notice of anyone. I sympathise with anyone fearing for their job more so at the minute with things being so tough for ordinary fit people to get work i just worry that you will be beggers to your own demise and hand this bunch of lying two faces ammunition to use against you with the public weakening your position more.

[Gary L]

I posted a parcel 1st class recorded Tuesday at the post office, and according to track and trace it's still sitting there.

[Julian]

Originally Posted by Gary L

I posted a parcel 1st class recorded Tuesday at the post office, and according to track and trace it's still sitting there.

Yep it will say that until the item has been "Signed For" at the point of delivery.

It could be anywhere between the Post Office and the posties bag, he could also have tried to deliver it and there not have been anyone to sign for it.

Signed For (recorded) services are not tracked. If you want an item tracked you should use Special Delivery or Royal Mail Tracked.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Julian

Yep it will say that until the item has been "Signed For" at the point of delivery.

It could be anywhere between the Post Office and the posties bag, he could also have tried to deliver it and there not have been anyone to sign for it.

Signed For (recorded) services are not tracked. If you want an item tracked you should use Special Delivery or Royal Mail Tracked.

I know they're not tracked as such, but I usually get 'we delivered' when I check previous ones.

I think it probably is still there, the guy doesn't like me because I tell him I want 1st class recorded and he goes all through the is it vaued more than £39, do you need it to get there next day blah blah blah.

I just told you what I want! you do this to me every time!!

[Halcyon]

The prices go up and the service goes down.

Bring back the good old days where you had your mail when you woke up and if it didnt come then, you would have a second delivery mid morning.
Oh and it used to be nice when first class postage was delivered on time next day. Now you have no idea when items arrive.

[alferret]

What happened to the strike then? We got post today. Mansfield NG18.