Brown on the ropes? - Page 23

Derek · 29-06-2009, 10:57

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Asked why there would be no spending review for the year 2010/11 when the government was borrowing Â£141bn more than it had predicted, he said it was impossible to predict how the economy would perform over the next two years.

I'll make a prediction. Badly, and if by some miracle labour manage to cling to power then very badly.

Can't wait for PM's questions this week and Browns latest attempt to evade questions on where the magic pile of cash is coming from for all his plans.

Osem · 29-06-2009, 11:48

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Originally Posted by Derek S

I'll make a prediction. Badly, and if by some miracle labour manage to cling to power then very badly.

Can't wait for PM's questions this week and Browns latest attempt to evade questions on where the magic pile of cash is coming from for all his plans.

Maybe some of it will come from the partial sale of Royal Mail:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8123530.stm

...which it seems has just joined the growing list of stuff which Brown won't do. reveal or admit to before the election.... I wonder why..

Oh and there's more:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6600819.ece

The Dark Lord really does seem to be behaving like a vampiric PM/Chancellor combo these days. Since they've never been at all shy of announcing, reannouncing or even concocting good news, I think it's safe to assume that Mandy thinks revealing anything bearing any resemblence to the awful reality would be political suicide...

Osem · 01-07-2009, 21:44

'No prospect' of postal sell-off...

As with soooooo many things this shabby bunch have promised over the years, it doesn't look like it's going to happen....

They're so desperate they're making up policy as they go along I reckon.

02-07-2009, 02:16

GB simply doesn't have the support to get anything through and that makes us a country with a lame duck leader and government. How long he will continue to go on before realising that his time has come and gone only he knows but we will all see the damage by his staying long before he goes.

ginge51 · 02-07-2009, 03:23

If we don't want him as our pm, why don't we get rid of him?
Simple.
This guy wasn't elected by us in the 1st place, 'by us'.

**Hugh** · 02-07-2009, 09:02

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Originally Posted by ginge51

If we don't want him as our pm, why don't we get rid of him?
Simple.
This guy wasn't elected by us in the 1st place, 'by us'.

Sounds good in principle, but how would we go about it?

ntluser · 02-07-2009, 10:04

Gordon Brown is simply driving this government on to the rocks so that he won't have to deal with the consequences of New Labour's mismanagement.

As New Labour are unlikely to be re-elected, he won't admit that cuts are necessary so that he can jeer from the Opposition benches when the Conservatives take the necessary remedial action to correct his mistakes and say that New Labour could have dealt with the crisis without cuts if they had been re-elected.

In his TV conversation with Nick Robinson, it was apparent that he was not actually going to use the word "cuts", instead preferring other words that effectively meant the same thing. Making savings by eliminating "waste" depends on how you define waste so it's possible to reduce vital services and argue that you are not making cuts but reducing waste. Pity this principle does not operate on those at 10 & 11 Downing Street.

If this is Gordon being transparent, I think it must be a political definition of transparency that equates to as clear as mud!

If Winston Churchill was Prime Minister today he would have been open and honest about the crisis faced by the nation and would have given us one of his famed stirring speeches that evoke confidence and the ability to cope.

By comparison, Gordon Brown is a political wimp.

Given that New Labour are not going to do anything until the election and given that whatever date they choose, be it tomorrow or the last day of their term of office, they are unlikely to be elected, it makes sense to hold the election sooner so that the nation's problems can be address promptly.

This is a case of putting country before party because at this rate and under these circumstances there will not be a country to govern.

Derek · 02-07-2009, 10:10

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Originally Posted by ntluser

In his TV conversation with Nick Robinson, it was apparent that he was not actually going to use the word "cuts", instead preferring other words that effectively meant the same thing.

That interview worried me. He had the look and mannerisms of someone who knows he is lying and in severe trouble but if he reiterates the same line over and over something will turn up to get him out of trouble.

ntluser · 02-07-2009, 10:17

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Originally Posted by Derek S

That interview worried me. He had the look and mannerisms of someone who knows he is lying and in severe trouble but if he reiterates the same line over and over something will turn up to get him out of trouble.

Yes, I agree. A bit like his "Trust me I'm a politician" video on youtube where he appeared to be appealing for support and tried to promote a more positive image of himself.

Sadly, New Labour are all about image and giving false impressions, but lack real substance and the ability to plan for the nations's welfare.

02-07-2009, 11:31

All i have seen from GB in the last year is a constant string of repeat quotes which he clearly wants us all to believe but his problem is we don't and and don't believe in him. This is a man that has the temerity to talk about honour and integrity in others while being completely absent of it himself.

He will not win the next election and he knows it we all know it but he has coveted that job for so long he cannot give it up even though that is the right course for every single person in his party and the country and i am so not surprised that the labour party have wimped out of doing what is right.

Right now we have a government that is not worried about the country or the people they are worried about themselves and their partys political future and are prepared to throw everything else away trying to sort that mess out.

Mick Fisher · 02-07-2009, 23:06

Has GB turned out to be the Country's worst performing PM within living memory?

I believe he has. There are a notable pair of contenders that immediately come to mind but I believe that both, upon realising that were not up to the job, did the honorable thing and resigned.

Osem · 05-07-2009, 10:31

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Originally Posted by Mick Fisher

Has GB turned out to be the Country's worst performing PM within living memory?...

Course not and what's more he's always told the truth to the British public!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8129766.stm

05-07-2009, 12:05

I do love it when people with plenty of money tell us that have sod all not to worry about debt shows they really are in touch doesn't it

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Sirius · 05-07-2009, 12:20

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Originally Posted by Osem

Course not and what's more he's always told the truth to the British public!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8129766.stm

Yep just as honest as Blier

Osem · 15-07-2009, 10:23

Brown seems to be in an ever decreasing circle of ministers who are still trying to deny that they'll have to make spending cuts... Now Mandelson has conceded that spending will have to be trimmed in some areas:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8150972.stm

Anyway, I heard that Brown might soon be doing his bit for the building industry by having a bunker built...