Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009) - Page 99

23-06-2009, 11:35

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Originally Posted by ilovehd

Dont get to excited it does just say a selection of games in hd!

I dont get excited by football... im a tennis freak myself... but its not really the point.

Where else is VM going to get top class HD sport from??? I hope they get Europsort HD and at least ill get some HD tennis but for the majority footie is where it's at...

We're not getting it from Sky so VM should be doing all they can to get it from ESPN.

Andrewcrawford23 · 23-06-2009, 11:43

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Originally Posted by Mobes

So it looks as if Sky will not have the sole rights to this new ESPN channel...In which case VM really has better pull out all the stops to get it on their platform.

It may be their only chance to get (what some perceive) to be the most popular sport i.e football in High Def on their platform withbout being beholden to Sky.

If they fail to deliver ESPN HD then it really does show that

1)They dont give a stuff about us or HD
2) They will happily look a gift horse in the mouth.
3) Thy're just a bit rubbish really when it comes to TV HD

mmm how does it show that? what if espn demand 50 million for virgin ot have the rights to the hd channels you think it ok for them to pay just for a select few customer jsut liekt he sky basics? if you are willing to abosrd the extra cost if it was something liek that yourself then yeah i say if it that bad to get it then fine add it, but i certainly do not want to absord the cost jsut so select few can get a few football games in hd

i am not saying espn will demand that much but giving a example of how it doe not mean virgin do not give a stuff if they do not add it

23-06-2009, 11:49

VM say they are serious about HD.

HD is great for Nature, Doco's and Sport.

Sport is pretty much locked into Sky which were not gonna get.

VM now have a chance to get HD Football - they would be mad to pass on the opportunity.

It's very simple.

Andrewcrawford23 · 23-06-2009, 12:11

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Originally Posted by Mobes

VM say they are serious about HD.

HD is great for Nature, Doco's and Sport.

Sport is pretty much locked into Sky which were not gonna get.

VM now have a chance to get HD Football - they would be mad to pass on the opportunity.

It's very simple.

You never answered my question , so if espn demand 50 million for 1 channel virign should pay to prove there serious about hd? and even if it meant that all cusotmer owuld have to pay a extra Â£5 a month jsut for one chanenl for a select few footie fans?

if your answer is yes your clearly just want virgin to go bust or do nto care about every other subscriber and just thinkign of yourself

TheDon · 23-06-2009, 12:22

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Originally Posted by ilovehd

Dont get to excited it does just say a selection of games in hd!

Selection being the 46 games it's got the rights to.

ESPN have HD outside broadcast studios, these are often used by Sky Sports when they don't have enough of their own to cover matches (for instance the last weekend of the season ESPN provided the equipment for the Villa - Newcastle game) so it's really no problem for them to offer HD for their matches, they already have the equipment to do it.

one2escape · 23-06-2009, 12:26

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Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23

You never answered my question , so if espn demand 50 million for 1 channel virign should pay to prove there serious about hd? and even if it meant that all cusotmer owuld have to pay a extra Â£5 a month jsut for one chanenl for a select few footie fans?

if your answer is yes your clearly just want virgin to go bust or do nto care about every other subscriber and just thinkign of yourself

Can Virgin afford not to? Sky are offering HD Boxes now if you buy TVs in Tesco. Its time for Virgin to either shut up or put up. It doesn't matter if its one channel or 50 then need HD programming and not On demand HD. While HD on demand is nice its not what we are after now. What is worrying for Virgin is that Living there own channel may not end up of Virgin in HD. This head in the sand approach isnt going to wash for much longer. Business deals can be done quick if they want to.

Media Boy UK · 23-06-2009, 12:28

Virgin Media confirms ESPN talks.

Virgin Media is in talks with ESPN about its recently secured TV rights to English Premier League games.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/digitalt...spn-talks.html

TheDon · 23-06-2009, 12:35

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Originally Posted by one2escape

Can Virgin afford not to? Sky are offering HD Boxes now if you buy TVs in Tesco. Its time for Virgin to either shut up or put up. It doesn't matter if its one channel or 50 then need HD programming and not On demand HD. While HD on demand is nice its not what we are after now. What is worrying for Virgin is that Living there own channel may not end up of Virgin in HD. This head in the sand approach isnt going to wash for much longer. Business deals can be done quick if they want to.

Yes, they can afford not to. Quarter on quarter they're seeing reduced churn, increased subs, and higher ARPU, all without HD. Why would they then sign deals to get HD that would LOSE THEM MONEY?

VM are a business, they can only sign deals that are financially viable for them, and if channels want them to pay a sum that is not viable for them to pay then they CANNOT pay it, it doesn't matter how many posts on a forum people make saying they should get HD no matter what, they can't. It's a business, it has to make more money from offering a service than it costs to supply that service.

I'd love to see more HD on VM as much as the next person, I have a nice big HD tv that's not getting used to it's potential, but at the same time I appreciate that VM can only offer channels that it makes financial sense for them to offer, and there's no way I'd want them to sign loss making deals just to get a few more HD channels when they could get better deals in future.

Felim_Doyle · 23-06-2009, 12:36

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Originally Posted by spiderplant

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Ta for those! I can refer to them on a regular basis now.

Andrewcrawford23 · 23-06-2009, 12:45

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Originally Posted by one2escape

Can Virgin afford not to? Sky are offering HD Boxes now if you buy TVs in Tesco. Its time for Virgin to either shut up or put up. It doesn't matter if its one channel or 50 then need HD programming and not On demand HD. While HD on demand is nice its not what we are after now. What is worrying for Virgin is that Living there own channel may not end up of Virgin in HD. This head in the sand approach isnt going to wash for much longer. Business deals can be done quick if they want to.

Yes they can afford not very easily there is only a small number demaning hd, and business sense says no do not pay over the odds for channels they done that for sky and sky had to back down in the end they could not do wihtout virign but thye could do without sky same goes here

sherer · 23-06-2009, 13:07

too late now but VM could have partnered with ESPN to get this channel as an exclusive on VM but as that tactic didn't work too well for Setanta I can't see having this channel in HD would get any viewers either, although it might stop some churn to Sky.

Any sports fan that wanted HD would already be with Sky by now so this won't really attract many new viewers

23-06-2009, 13:24

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Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23

You never answered my question , so if espn demand 50 million for 1 channel virign should pay to prove there serious about hd? and even if it meant that all cusotmer owuld have to pay a extra Â£5 a month jsut for one chanenl for a select few footie fans?

if your answer is yes your clearly just want virgin to go bust or do nto care about every other subscriber and just thinkign of yourself

Andrew i have already said in a previous post that i dont care for football so im not 'thinking of myself' but yet again people like you refuse to see the bigger picture.

That being the case it's pretty futile conversing with you.

Andrewcrawford23 · 23-06-2009, 13:47

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Originally Posted by Mobes

Andrew i have already said in a previous post that i dont care for football so im not 'thinking of myself' but yet again people like you refuse to see the bigger picture.

That being the case it's pretty futile conversing with you.

No i said if you said yes you are thinking only of yourself, youa re missing the other big picture hy shoudl virgin make a loss to add hd channels???

23-06-2009, 13:49

You dont even know they would!!! Get a grip!

TheDon · 23-06-2009, 14:14

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Originally Posted by Mobes

You dont even know they would!!! Get a grip!

He said should they add them at a loss just to have them, and you replied saying they should.

He's making a point that getting the channels is not as simple as "people want HD, lets get the HD channels!" but it has to be a business decision where it makes financial sense. You're ignoring that and just repeating "BUT THEY HAVE TO GET HD!" when they don't have to, they're doing fine without it.