Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009) - Page 84

gadge · 10-06-2009, 14:47

What was the point of rebranding if the channel is up for sale anyway,knowing sky if they got it with living and the others whats the betting it would be called sky4.

musicbravo · 10-06-2009, 16:25

Again people are far too hooked on HD. It will come and as for SD being pielated, that is rubbish. It is only pixelated for some people that have LCDs with poor SD picture quality. It still looks fine on my old CRT. And back to my original rant it took several years after the first permanent broadcast channel for other "quality" channels to appear. In other words just be patient.

Nook29 · 10-06-2009, 16:33

The quality of SD channels on my HDTV through HDMI is fantastic. Definite improvement over the quality from the standard box through scart, and that wasn't in any way bad. Anyone who thinks the quality is terrible and ends up downloading programs instead of watching on TV either needs a new TV or is just picking at everything.

musicbravo · 10-06-2009, 16:44

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Originally Posted by Nook29

The quality of SD channels on my HDTV through HDMI is fantastic. Definite improvement over the quality from the standard box through scart, and that wasn't in any way bad. Anyone who thinks the quality is terrible and ends up downloading programs instead of watching on TV either needs a new TV or is just picking at everything.

Exactly, the v+ does a damn fine job through HDMI and isn't too sluggish through scart either

Nook29 · 10-06-2009, 20:26

A bit of vague info regarding what channels to respect, the VM twitter says they'll be 'A range covering most genres'.

kesterwww · 10-06-2009, 21:06

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Originally Posted by musicbravo

Again people are far too hooked on HD. It will come ... And back to my original rant it took several years after the first permanent broadcast channel for other "quality" channels to appear. In other words just be patient.

Yes people are too hooked on hd channels. But who's fault is that? If VM hadn't made claims which they couldn't carry out, only to offer that exact same claim 3 months later, people wouldn't be wondering where they are. Sure, they/we'd still moan that there isn't enough hd channels, but atleast not clinging to some faint hope that they are going to start broadcasting soon.
your second point about how long channels started to appear way back when, well, if hd is todays equivalent, then the channels have appeared, we just haven't got access to them.

KenK · 10-06-2009, 21:47

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Originally Posted by Nook29

I really wish people would stop complaining about the Virgin surprise promise. For the final time, it WASN'T the Virgin 1 rebrand, the rebrand was announced ages ago and is in no way a surprise. Regardless of whether you like the rebrand or not, it has nothing to do with the surprise they announced the other week.

OK. I suppose you can't tell us what the 'surprise' is, or when it's going to appear, because then it wouldn't be a 'surprise'? Again, OK.

But if this doesn't happen very, very soon, it's going to be regarded as yet another VM/ntl/CableTel "coming soon" fictional comment (or lie) to keep the punters hooked. They've been doing that far too often for too many years. Does the PR Dept really think this is a good way to treat the customers?

Nook29 · 10-06-2009, 21:56

If I remember correctly the surprise came from a Virgin employee, nothing was officially announced. Either way, it seems like Autumn is when they're expecting the deals to be done by.

kesterwww · 10-06-2009, 21:56

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Originally Posted by KenK

But if this doesn't happen very, very soon, it's going to be regarded as yet another VM/ntl/CableTel "coming soon" fictional comment (or lie) to keep the punters hooked. They've been doing that far too often for too many years. Does the PR Dept really think this is a good way to treat the customers?

I suspect, as long as the customers are paying their bills, and new ones are signing up, the pr dept couldn't give a flying flick how the customers are treated.

frogstamper · 11-06-2009, 02:16

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Originally Posted by musicbravo

Again people are far too hooked on HD. It will come and as for SD being pielated, that is rubbish. It is only pixelated for some people that have LCDs with poor SD picture quality. It still looks fine on my old CRT. And back to my original rant it took several years after the first permanent broadcast channel for other "quality" channels to appear. In other words just be patient.

"Just be patient for HD!!!!!

For crying out loud thats rich after all the false dawns, telling VM customers to be patient for HD, you must be having a laugh.
Alternatively you could have just told us that HD is "COMING SOON".

sherer · 11-06-2009, 07:23

I have a feeling nothing will happen until the OFCOM review into pay TV. Not sure when that is due but isn't that soon ? Even if that forces Sky to open things up you know Sky will appeal and so that will drag on and on, and if it doesn't mention HD then again Sky will withhold it

11-06-2009, 08:18

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Originally Posted by frogstamper

"Just be patient for HD!!!!!

For crying out loud thats rich after all the false dawns, telling VM customers to be patient for HD, you must be having a laugh.
Alternatively you could have just told us that HD is "COMING SOON".

Exactly - i think for a lot of us it's not just the lack of HD but the lies Virgin have spouted. They've been "Coming soon" for years then it was "In the 2nd 1/4, then it was Summer and now all of a sudden it's Autumn....

How often are they going to fail to deliver??

It makes them look at best inept and at worst dis-honest.

This HD fiasco is the first time ive ever had a problem with NTL/Virgin.

Other than this they have been (IMO) a top class company.

Stephen · 11-06-2009, 08:36

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Originally Posted by Mobes

Exactly - i think for a lot of us it's not just the lack of HD but the lies Virgin have spouted. They've been "Coming soon" for years then it was "In the 2nd 1/4, then it was Summer and now all of a sudden it's Autumn....

How often are they going to fail to deliver??

It makes them look at best inept and at worst dis-honest.

This HD fiasco is the first time ive ever had a problem with NTL/Virgin.

Other than this they have been (IMO) a top class company.

Virgin Haven't lied. They have given rough dates as to when they expected to be able to announce/launch some HD channels.

However as anyone with a good understanding of how business deals are done, they need to agree contractual terms and such. Now if the companies they are dealing with cause problems or something happens then the deals can take longer.

So there is no point in VM stating an actual date where as giving a rough idea of the month/season is better if there are delays in signing contracts.

Nook29 · 11-06-2009, 08:51

If the twitter guys are to be believed, the contracts aren't done yet, hence why there has been no announcement.

11-06-2009, 09:29

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Originally Posted by sherer

I have a feeling nothing will happen until the OFCOM review into pay TV. Not sure when that is due but isn't that soon ? Even if that forces Sky to open things up you know Sky will appeal and so that will drag on and on, and if it doesn't mention HD then again Sky will withhold it

That is the view i had everything hinges on the pay tv review,which if my memory serves me correctly has been rumbling on one way or another for 2 years!!

By the time ofcom report we could all be picking our pensions up,and i have 17 years until mine is due!!!.

Why it is taking them so long, goodness knows,when the office of fair trading i think put the sports/movies on the ratecard, it was done reasonably swiftly,ofcom seem to move like snails could all be down to politics ie not upsetting one important large shareholder before an election,oops cynical me.