Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)

[Andrewcrawford23]

Originally Posted by Mobes

EXACTLY... O.k THIS is what has annoyed me. Virgin Media FULLY knowing the annnoyance their customers feel about lack of linear HD make a big fuss about a "Suprise" on the launch night of the new (though WTF is new i dont really know) V1 channel and all it is, is a red glove puppet.

PATHETIC!

to be fair it only a nnoyance to say maybe 2-5 % of there cusotmer base which i say is about 10000-50000 customer max comapre with 3+ million customers, the people that want hd is small minority

[Morgrin]

Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23

to be fair it only a nnoyance to say maybe 2-5 % of there cusotmer base which i say is about 10000-50000 customer max comapre with 3+ million customers, the people that want hd is small minority

How many customers are interested by a red glove puppet? VM need to take a long hard look at who decides how their budgets are spent.

Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23

to be fair it only a nnoyance to say maybe 2-5 % of there cusotmer base which i say is about 10000-50000 customer max comapre with 3+ million customers, the people that want hd is small minority

Andrew, i'm sure i looked these figures up but if somone can correct me then so be it...

BUT as far as i read it, taken proportionally, more Virgin subscribers have taken up V+ HD than Sky Subscribers have taken up Sky HD....

The numbers may be smallish but its more than Sky and Sky has 298146 HD channels to our 1

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Originally Posted by Morgrin

How many customers are interested by a red glove puppet? VM need to take a long hard look at who decides how their budgets are spent.

Exactly! Anyone in this game knows that Re-branding costs MILLIONS of pounds... much better spent on getting more HD!!!

[Andrewcrawford23]

Originally Posted by Mobes

Andrew, i'm sure i looked these figures up but if somone can correct me then so be it...

BUT as far as i read it, taken proportionally, more Virgin subscribers have taken up V+ HD than Sky Subscribers have taken up Sky HD....

The numbers may be smallish but its more than Sky and Sky has 298146 HD channels to our 1

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Exactly! Anyone in this game knows that Re-branding costs MILLIONS of pounds... much better spent on getting more HD!!!

Correct me if i am worng but isnt the V+ also a PVR???? to quote figures because the V+ is in about 17% of virgin hojmes does not mean 17% of there cusotmer want HD. This is the point i always say people incorrectely use the figures to there own gains. Arthur always said laods of peopel would leave for sky for hd and sky and the numebrs have been small.

I am not disagree with you that some peopel want HD myself included but when you are goign to say most people do you need ot back it up with figures, all polls i have seen suggest 2-5% of virign customer want HD and that is just using satiticallyt analyst but the true figure would probally be less than 1% if you take into accoutn most popel that will be on these polls want hd

I await the response of about me being proactive virign support (ha like am just neutralk and say it as it really is even if it bad to virgin or good)

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Originally Posted by Morgrin

How many customers are interested by a red glove puppet? VM need to take a long hard look at who decides how their budgets are spent.

Well you have got me there!!! i would say 3??? maybe 0.000001%

[Nook29]

I really wish people would stop complaining about the Virgin surprise promise. For the final time, it WASN'T the Virgin 1 rebrand, the rebrand was announced ages ago and is in no way a surprise. Regardless of whether you like the rebrand or not, it has nothing to do with the surprise they announced the other week.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Mobes

Exactly! Anyone in this game knows that Re-branding costs MILLIONS of pounds... much better spent on getting more HD!!!

Anyone in 'this game' as you put it and has a good understanding of how business' are run would know that budgets are set aside for things and its not simply a case of 'they could have spent that money on HD' they have individual budgets for everything so money they spent on rebranding and what not will not affect VM's plans for HD!

Andrew, It's a fair point about it being a PVR but when your leading technology can only muster 1HD channel but your willing to spend millions on a Red sock, priorities are worng somewhere....

I await the response of about me being proactive virign support (ha like am just neutralk and say it as it really is even if it bad to virgin or good) - i don't understand mate, was this directed at me?

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Originally Posted by Stephen

Anyone in 'this game' as you put it and has a good understanding of how business' are run would know that budgets are set aside for things and its not simply a case of 'they could have spent that money on HD' they have individual budgets for everything so money they spent on rebranding and what not will not affect VM's plans for HD!

Nonsense!

The collective budget is broken up into individual budgets for each section of the company... therefore they decide how much the Advertising budget is and how much the HD budget is... therefore someone HAD to decided how much went into the glove puppet Budget when they could have decided to put more into the HD budget.

It's a ridiculous use of their money! Can anyone honestly say that V1 is now vastly different to what it was apart from it's a red puppet and not a red Post box???

It's about priorties and Virgin at present want to wow us all with Elmo lite in the vain hope we forget about everything else LOL....

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Mobes

Andrew, It's a fair point about it being a PVR but when your leading technology can only muster 1HD channel but your willing to spend millions on a Red sock, priorities are worng somewhere....

I await the response of about me being proactive virign support (ha like am just neutralk and say it as it really is even if it bad to virgin or good) - i don't understand mate, was this directed at me?

Originally Posted by Mobes

Nonsense!

The collective budget is broken up into individual budgets for each section of the company... therefore they decide how much the Advertising budget is and how much the HD budget is... therefore someone HAD to decided how much went into the glove puppet Budget when they could have decided to put more into the HD budget.

It's a ridiculous use of their money! Can anyone honestly say that V1 is now vastly different to what it was apart from it's a red puppet and not a red Post box???

It's about priorties and Virgin at present want to wow us all with Elmo lite in the vain hope we forget about everything else LOL....

The new Virgin 1 rebrand has nothing to do with getting HD. As mentioned in my above post business' have budgets set for things and this will not affect any HD aquisitions or anything else for that matter, they will have plenty of cash set aside for everything. Its all totally unrelated, so stop worrying that because Virgin 1 has a new look they will now not get HD or change anything else on their service this year.

[Nook29]

It's the case with most companies that they have seperate divisions, each with their own budget which they must stick too. The Virgin 1 rebrand will have come out of either the advertisers budget, or Virgin 1's budget.

I actually quite like the new mascot, Red. Nothing special, but it adds a bit of character to the channel.

[Andrewcrawford23]

Originally Posted by Mobes

Andrew, It's a fair point about it being a PVR but when your leading technology can only muster 1HD channel but your willing to spend millions on a Red sock, priorities are worng somewhere....

I await the response of about me being proactive virign support (ha like am just neutralk and say it as it really is even if it bad to virgin or good) - i don't understand mate, was this directed at me?

.

No not at you just general people say i am proactive virgin and only say good thing and never put them down

Oh i do not disagree that they should have more hd speficially because they market the boix as hd but you cna not use the figures for v+ as reason for peopel wanting hd as it is a pvr to is my main point. But saying that since there pvr/hd box is now about 17-205 of there cusotmer thye have mroe reaosn to add hd channels than before when it was only about 2-5 % but the ones who want hd have mostly left and what left is only 10000 maybe 50000 customers a small amount

I'm not worrying Stephen, i just don't buy your budget argument

[cupcakes aka dd]

VM need to realise that if they add more HD channels alot of people will come back from SKY. The only sticking point for most people is the lack of HD.

[Andrewcrawford23]

Originally Posted by cupcakes aka dd

VM need to realise that if they add more HD channels alot of people will come back from SKY. The only sticking point for most people is the lack of HD.

No they will not, why.... because sky hd channel will not be there and that what most peopel want sky psorts and movies hd

even if they did they are tire dinto a contract so can not leave easily

[cupcakes aka dd]

I for one am not interested in sports or movies in HD. Movies in HD I watch on Blu-Ray.

[Andrewcrawford23]

1 person does not constuite most.... This discussion i think is going to far fromt he topic i think i will just wait until it seems back