Football : Season 08/09 - Page 126

CHiLL · 25-05-2009, 18:14

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Originally Posted by Niles Crane

Moyes spent Â£15m on 1 player. A club record. Prior to that, he spent Â£11m on 1 player, the previous club record. Hardly limited resources, is it?

It is compared to the bigger teams in the league, and even the teams who finish lower. He is doing extremely well with the money he uses. How much less has he spent per season than say Spurs?

Matty_ · 25-05-2009, 18:31

Manchester City spent 30 odd million on one player and he`s not that good.
15 million seems to be about what you need to spend nowadays to get a better than average player who is known about.

Still made a slight profit last year http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...on/7788657.stm

This is from a while back, i`d like to know what ammounts each club spent last year

premiership spending 2002-03 - 2006-07 season

Chelsea Â£268.30m
Liverpool Â£58.07m
Tottenham Â£37.30m
Newcastle Â£35.65
Man United Â£34.95
Aston Villa Â£31.45m
Middlesboro Â£19.85m
Charlton Â£13.65m
Bolton Â£11.55m
Everton Â£9.95m
Arsenal Â£9.90m

Maybe not limited resources but again IMO he does seem to do well with what he`s got. Certainly better than some managers who have spent similar/more cash.....

pedantic · 25-05-2009, 18:51

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Originally Posted by Matty_

This is from a while back, i`d like to know what ammounts each club spent last year

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/

kingbuxton · 25-05-2009, 20:31

Spurs - Â£356Million! Would never have expected that much. And Man Utd Â£190Million in sales! Considering we are the 2nd biggest spenders - to come out with a per-season spend that is comparable to Man City and then taking Trophies Won into consideration, that's some decent transfer activity. I suppose the fact we won so much with a team that cost very little can bias that slightly. However, remove Peter Kenyon from our outgoing and that Â£391 would (could) have been somewhat smaller.

Also Â£260Mill from Arsenal pretty much knocks the old "Wenger doesn't spend" out of the park, but again, Â£180Mill in sales. Â£4.6Mill a season. For all the things about him I don't like, very good manager Wenger.

Edit: What I mean is more the myth that Wenger is gutless when it comes to spending.

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Congratulations to Burnley

More local teams the better - off to Burnley after a midweek ECL is better than off to Southampton. It's nothing personal against the Sheff Utd/Birmingham and Wolves of the world, but it's always the same teams that bounce Up/Down. It's refreshing to get some different teams/fans n stadiums.

Still gutted PNE missed out.

**Damien** · 25-05-2009, 20:34

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Originally Posted by kingbuxton

Spurs - Â£356Million! Would never have expected that much. And Man Utd Â£190Million in sales! Considering we are the 2nd biggest spenders - to come out with a per-season spend that is comparable to Man City and then taking Trophies Won into consideration, that's some decent transfer activity. I suppose the fact we won so much with a team that cost very little can bias that slightly. However, remove Peter Kenyon from our outgoing and that Â£391 would (could) have been somewhat smaller.

Also Â£260Mill from Arsenal pretty much knocks the old "Wenger doesn't spend" out of the park, but again, Â£180Mill in sales. Â£4.6Mill a season. For all the things about him I don't like, very good manager Wenger.

Edit: What I mean is more the myth that Wenger is gutless when it comes to spending..

Well Arsenal have sold nearly as much though, it's not as if he has a blank cheque to sign players. Hence Arsenal being 11th. On average Arsenal spend Â£5 mill a season compared to Â£11 mill as is the case with United. While since '02 United have spent Â£18 mill, Spurs Â£19! and Chelsea a wooping Â£26 mill on average :O While Arsenal remain around the same at Â£4 mill.

Arthurgray50@blu · 25-05-2009, 20:47

Well done to Burnley, but they had great help from pathetic referee Mike Dean, l counted FOUR appeals turned down for United. With the problem he had with United, he should not have taken the game. Good game poor decisions.

kingbuxton · 25-05-2009, 21:16

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Well Arsenal have sold nearly as much though, it's not as if he has a blank cheque to sign players

Not having a go at him, this season especially, there seems to be this myth that he is scared to spend! That shows he isn't. Like I said, his sales/spend ratio is unreal. To put a team top four on a per-season spend of Â£5Mill takes some doing. And the fact that Spurs are way above him snuffs the "well the teams below fourth can't compete" out before you can say it. Probably as well he doesn't have a blank Cheque on tap

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With the problem he had with United, he should not have taken the game

Do you mean on that game only, or is there previous between Dean n Sheff Utd?

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l counted FOUR appeals

Penalties? Sorry, I didn't see the game.

Arthurgray50@blu · 25-05-2009, 23:03

I am not even a supporter of either club, but there was a prob between United and Dean from a previous occasion, and it all seemed to go Burnley's way, Good luck to Burnley, but l believe that next season, the people who arrange ref's for game's should not allow ref's to go to games, that there has been a manager prob.

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I have just watched comments made by Celtic fans, towards Gordon Strachan, who has resigned as manager, To me, its the players on the pitch that have to perform, not the manager, and to be honest Celtic can't win everything, l would love to see another club in Scotland apart from the big two.

kingbuxton · 25-05-2009, 23:36

Can't really find anything about him bar a couple of Reds in a Sheff Derby.

But.........

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He was originally appointed to referee the 2006 FA Cup Final at the Millennium Stadium on May 13, 2006, but the Football Association took the unusual step of replacing him with Alan Wiley after concerns were raised about his ability to be impartial towards Liverpool, who are based near Dean's home town in the Wirral.

So I guess that is another Ref (Howard "You'll Never Walk Alone" Webb) that I would rather not see in charge of Pool v UTD games.

Didn't know Strachan had gone, done nothing but win trophies, fans hate him, go figure. Next Newcastle manager??

**Damien** · 26-05-2009, 09:14

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Didn't know Strachan had gone, done nothing but win trophies, fans hate him, go figure. Next Newcastle manager??

Shearer will stay I reckon! But yeah, The Celtic fans (who complained) can go screw themselves if they hate a manager just because they didn't win this season. Morons. I think it's possible Strachan might end up at Sunderland though.

Matty_ · 26-05-2009, 15:09

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Originally Posted by pedantic

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/

Nice 1, some interesting reading there.....

Anyone gonna take a punt at what the score will be tommorrow?

I reckon 1-1 (Utd to score first) then penalties, then...............

matt-h · 26-05-2009, 15:24

Im hoping it will be a lot more open that last year ( nerves dont do well with ET and penalties ) BUT i do think if we can get at Barca then we will win .

Both teams are excellent going forward but we have a solid back 5 and barca dont. Which could make all the difference with any luck.

Im not going to stand up and say we WILL win but i think we stand a good chance.

Shame the haul wouldnt include the FA Cup for the proper treble ( which we already have rafa - another fact for you ) but hey ho.

Russ · 26-05-2009, 15:25

Hmmm, the only problem with being a smug Man United fan is if we have a successful season but lose something big (like tomorrow's game) then each fan of every other team legally earns the right to mercilessly gloat for a minimum of 2 months. So I'm really hoping for a 2-1 win and a trophy retention.

Saaf_laandon_mo · 26-05-2009, 15:31

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Originally Posted by Russ B

Hmmm, the only problem with being a smug Man United fan is if we have a successful season but lose something big (like tomorrow's game) then each fan of every other team legally earns the right to mercilessly gloat for a minimum of 2 months. So I'm really hoping for a 2-1 win and a trophy retention.

I think Utd will win 2-1 too. And I'm hoping that they do win too. There is a very good article in the back pages of today's Sun by Ian Wright, and his reasons for a Utd win are exactly how I feel. I'm not saying it just cause Barca beat us in the semis (I've honestly got over that now) but I do hope that Utd can win and shut up the likes of Platini, Blatter, all the football 'purists' who keep insisting that Barca deserve to win the CL due to the way they play football, how many goals they've scored, how they have the best players in the world blah blah blah.

Russ · 26-05-2009, 15:35

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Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo

I think Utd will win 2-1 too. And I'm hoping that they do win too. There is a very good article in the back pages of today's Sun by Ian Wright, and his reasons for a Utd win are exactly how I feel. I'm not saying it just cause Barca beat us in the semis (I've honestly got over that now) but I do hope that Utd can win and shut up the likes of Platini, Blatter, all the football 'purists' who keep insisting that Barca deserve to win the CL due to the way they play football, how many goals they've scored, how they have the best players in the world blah blah blah.

I respect that but you do understand I'm going to expect a lot of gloating and urine extraction if Barca win yes? Don't disappoint me, I would do the same back.