Pandemic (Swine) Flu

Originally Posted by Matt D

Anway, once I've ordered my biological hazmat suit at work tomorrow, I'd better get on to Big Pharma & ask them nicely if they'll let those of us who work in Little Pharma have the Top Secret Vaccine. Don't want to leave it too late.

I have already had mine delivered by Black Helicopter® - it sometimes helps being part of the "conspiracy".

[chaos23]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

Funnily enough, those figures are from the WHO and the Mexican government. BBC

"Mexico: 159 suspected deaths - seven confirmed cases" ; facts - once you've tried them, it's hard to give them up.....

From the WHO site
"29 April 2009 --The situation continues to evolve rapidly. As of 18:00 GMT, 29 April 2009, nine countries have officially reported 148 cases of swine influenza A/H1N1 infection. The United States Government has reported 91 laboratory confirmed human cases, with one death. Mexico has reported 26 confirmed human cases of infection including seven deaths.
The following countries have reported laboratory confirmed cases with no deaths - Austria (1), Canada (13), Germany (3), Israel (2), New Zealand (3), Spain (4) and the United Kingdom (5). "

Meanwhile, back on planet reality, an interesting article from today's Times

You know full well i wasn't disputing the figures. I was pointing out you inability to see the serious situation we are in, which the WHO have called " a very serious situation".

Anyways, should we not be thinking about how to re populate the planet after the "cull"?

I have my mask I bought at lunch....

Originally Posted by chaos23

You know full well i wasn't disputing the figures. I was pointing out you inability to see the serious situation we are in, which the WHO have called " a very serious situation".

I knew full well nothing of the sort - your assumption is incorrect; as you seem to like to muddy the waters, you must understand that confusion can arise.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Matt D

Which of these is the simplest, most logical explanation?

2) Big Pharma / NWO / The Military-Industrial Complex / Reptoids / all-of-these have secretly created the H1N1 "Swine Flu"/"Mexican Flu" virus for use as a biological weapon, perhaps for some sort of population control (not very effective then is it!), or to make money selling vaccines, or to do a test run for a later more deadly weapon...

That one.

Originally Posted by Matt D

Masks are for wusses. I'm gonna order one of these:

[idi banashapan]

Originally Posted by icestar2

Maybe if almost every post you make was not riddled with some form of a consipracy or other then people would take what you have to say more seriously.

unfortunately, this is not the case here. if anyone even mentions a 'conspiracy theory' here, be it what they believe or not, they will get called a fool by a certain number of posters here who jump straight on them. not many, admittedly, but there are 3 or 4 who will immediate try to ridicule openly without debate and not even giving the time to actually read into things looking at both sides of the story.

it's sad but true. some people will only accept what they believe. anyone who thinks different is just plain wrong.

Chaos23 does post a lot of conspiracy stuff here. some of it is rubbish, some of it can be very plausible. sometimes his presentation and arguements of the theories leaves room for improvement, but that by no means should mean that the point he is making should be dismissed outright all the time. unfortunately, there are a few here who have branded him a fool and have tried their best to make others think the same of him (imo). he has a constant battle, but continues to to post what he believes to be true, and I salute him for that at least. it's just a shame that some people appear so insecure and threatened by what he posts that they feel the need to belittle him and his posts at every opportunity. if what he says is such rubbish, why respond?

personally, in regards to this pandemic, i think it is quite plausible that one of several scenarios could be at play;

1) this is a natural virus spreading in a natural way, evolving naturally
2) this is a natural virus that has been harvested and released onto the public for whatever reason
3) this is a lab born virus released onto the public for whatever reason
4) this is a lab born virus that has leaked onto the public by accident

regardless of any reasoning behind it, any of those are possible. this means we cannot discount any of those scenarios outrightly based purely on what we think we know or what we believe to be true. the media is hardly likely to tell us if 2, 3 or 4 where true. I doubt very much they would know themselves if they were true. we are therefore led to believe 1 is the truth, but that doesn't mean it is.

therefore, to those of you who openly put down and cast judgement on Chaos23 - you do so unfairly based soley on you opinion of events. just because what he believes is not necessarily what you believe, it does not make him wrong nor a fool. why can some of you not just listen to what he has to say and either walk away or say your peice without having to continually ridicule him openly? does it make you feel better about yourselves? do you have some superiority complex you need to quench? or is he just an easy target you can all poke your sticks at?

if what he says upsets, scares or enrages you, at least reply in a respectful manner. it's like you are trying to make him bite, then beat him with a stick when he does. the guy is in a totally no-win situation here because of a few people with deep down psychological issues. maybe some of you need to take a good look at yourselves before you start mocking others. grow up a little. you're meant to be adults.

I'm just disappointed it is alleged to be porcine in origin - if caprine it would be a lot easier to find a scapegoat

[idi banashapan]

Originally Posted by homealone

I'm just disappointed it is alleged to be porcine in origin - if caprine it would be a lot easier to find a scapegoat

lol - that's poor, but in a well put way!

[icestar2]

Originally Posted by Bender

if what he says upsets, scares or enrages you, at least reply in a respectful manner. it's like you are trying to make him bite, then beat him with a stick when he does. the guy is in a totally no-win situation here because of a few people with deep down psychological issues. maybe some of you need to take a good look at yourselves before you start mocking others. grow up a little. you're meant to be adults.

So when he is asked to prove something and cant and decides to move to petty name calling thats ok then. I've personally kept out of most of his threads because they are always filled with conspiracys.

If you see a conspiracy in everything then simple probability says that eventually you'll be right in one of them.

As you'll see I've asked some times in this thread for Chaos23 to show me were he is getting his information to which I was just ignored or insulted myself. I have no personal problem with Chaos at all and he is well within his right to speak his mind but then so am I.

I think this is more just a clash of opinions/personalitys which is always going to happen on a forum as it does in the real world. That does not mean I dislike him just that I dislike some of his views sometimes and he no doubt does mine.

[Jimmy-J]

It's just a way to scare us into getting the vaccine, only it isn't a vaccine for swine flu, it's a mind manipulating drug that turns us all into controllable zombies.

Propaganda from 1976

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Product 13

It's just a way to scare us into getting the vaccine, only it isn't a vaccine for swine flu, it's a mind manipulating drug that turns us all into controllable zombies.

Propaganda from 1976

IIRC the vacine from '76 killed more than the flu.........

[chaos23]

Indonesian Heath Minister Siti Fadilah Supari said Tuesday the deadly swine flu virus could have been man-made, as she urged calm over its spread around the world.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/world/04/...ld-be-man-made

[Russ]

So a foreign minister known for making controversial statements says she thinks it might have been man-made.

Yep, that's sold it for me.

[chaos23]

Originally Posted by Russ B

So a foreign minister known for making controversial statements says she thinks it might have been man-made.

Yep, that's sold it for me.

So because they have made controversial statements before, makes them a liar does it? LOL