VirginMedia offers enhanced service with Googlemail

[Stephen]

VM will be ensuring that if there is a joe.blogs at ntlworld.com email that no new customers will be able to create a joe.blogs at virginmedia.com as it will be reserved for that person to change the ntlworld.com over to the virginmedia address.

[BarFly]

Originally Posted by Stephen

VM will be ensuring that if there is a joe.blogs at ntlworld.com email that no new customers will be able to create a joe.blogs at virginmedia.com as it will be reserved for that person to change the ntlworld.com over to the virginmedia address.

Not quite, if there is a joe.bloggs@ntlworld.com & a joe.bloggs@blueyonder.co.uk & a joe.bloggs@virgin.net, it will be a first come, first served situation, so dont presume you will automatically have your mail address waiting to be transferred over to the new domain.

Originally Posted by AndyCambs

POP3 will remove them from the server. Forwarding them will eventually fill up your NTLWORLD or Blue Yonder email account.

You can also set googlemail to reply from your NTL or BY account.

With ex ntl mail you can choose 'forward & keep a copy' or 'forwarding only - doesn't keep a copy'.

Your second statement is correct - and is very useful

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by BarFly

Not quite, if there is a joe.bloggs@ntlworld.com & a joe.bloggs@blueyonder.co.uk & a joe.bloggs@virgin.net, it will be a first come, first served situation, so dont presume you will automatically have your mail address waiting to be transferred over to the new domain.

That is exactly right you will be told what day the release is and it will be first come first serve, unless you have an unusual name.

Doesn't bother me, as I forward all my NTL accounts on to my Gmail account anyway.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by BarFly

Not quite, if there is a joe.bloggs@ntlworld.com & a joe.bloggs@blueyonder.co.uk & a joe.bloggs@virgin.net, it will be a first come, first served situation, so dont presume you will automatically have your mail address waiting to be transferred over to the new domain.

Yes that is correct but what I was saying is that the new customers getting the virginmedia.com addresses will not be able to choose those names if there is already one existing on any of the 3 current mail services.

I would imagine there would be joe.bloggs2 or joe.bloggs3 reserved if the same address was around on the different platforms.

[chrisdk]

Anyone know what will happen with those of us who use more than ten mailboxes?

[Billy-Bob]

Does this mean that all my e-mails and all e-mails sent to me will now be scanned for keywords and have adverts injected into them (as happens with the free GMail service that Google offer)?
If so, I'm not a happy camper - I have NO problem with this happening to the free GMail users who have, after all, decided that the advantages of a FREE, reliable e-mail service are worth the intrusion and loss of privacy. HOWEVER, the VM e-mail service is NOT free - it's a part of the (not insubstantial) monthly subscription that I pay to them, and I don't want anyone nosing around in my private e-mails (I work in Healthcare, and have a couple of friends/relatives who have serious health issues. In both my private and professional lives, I use e-mail to communicate sensitive, private and confidential medical information and advice. I simply CANNOT allow Google - or anyone else - to snoop on the contents of these e-mails)
Definitive answer to this question required IMMEDIATELY please!

[AndyCambs]

Originally Posted by Billy-Bob

Does this mean that all my e-mails and all e-mails sent to me will now be scanned for keywords and have adverts injected into them (as happens with the free GMail service that Google offer)?
If so, I'm not a happy camper - I have NO problem with this happening to the free GMail users who have, after all, decided that the advantages of a FREE, reliable e-mail service are worth the intrusion and loss of privacy. HOWEVER, the VM e-mail service is NOT free - it's a part of the (not insubstantial) monthly subscription that I pay to them, and I don't want anyone nosing around in my private e-mails (I work in Healthcare, and have a couple of friends/relatives who have serious health issues. In both my private and professional lives, I use e-mail to communicate sensitive, private and confidential medical information and advice. I simply CANNOT allow Google - or anyone else - to snoop on the contents of these e-mails)
Definitive answer to this question required IMMEDIATELY please!

There's just no pleasing some people,

If you don't want to use email - then revert to pen and paper. At the moment, that't about the only thing that's not scanned by HM Govt.

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by AndyCambs

There's just no pleasing some people,

If you don't want to use email - then revert to pen and paper. At the moment, that't about the only thing that's not scanned by HM Govt.

I'm not entirely sure what HM Govt have to do with concerns over Google keyword scanning mail sent to and from Virgin Media customers

Billy-Bob, ideally if things are confidential you should be encrypting them. There are several things that can accomplish this. The good news is that mail to Google's outsourced service is encrypted during transit over SSL / Secure Sockets Layer making it more secure in transit than standard email. If in addition you encrypt the mail yourself with one of the many programs available so that you have the Google encryption then your own inside they will not be able to keyword scan it.

I'll ask someone who works for Sky if Sky mail is keyword scanned however I am quite certain this is not the case. Google are receiving revenue directly from Sky and Virgin for the use of their Gmail platform and do not attach advertisements to outsourced mail, so to keyword scan it would be a waste of resource.

EDIT: Billy-Bob: as a general rule always consider email to be the equivalent of a postcard, not a letter inside an envelope. If you require an 'envelope' employ encryption.

[Paul K]

On the sky email system (via googlemail) the only advertising is a standard banner. The usual side bar of key word driven ads is not there, this would point to no advert delivery via keyword scanning, doesn't mean the scanning isn't there though obviously.

[Mick Fisher]

Originally Posted by Broadbandings

Billy-Bob, ideally if things are confidential you should be encrypting them. There are several things that can accomplish this. The good news is that mail to Google's outsourced service is encrypted during transit over SSL / Secure Sockets Layer making it more secure in transit than standard email. If in addition you encrypt the mail yourself with one of the many programs available so that you have the Google encryption then your own inside they will not be able to keyword scan it.

A very good s/mime tutorial. Can be a bit tricky to set up but ultimately it is time well spent.
http://www.heypete.com/pete/secure/c...thawte/ie.html

Originally Posted by Broadbandings

I'll ask someone who works for Sky if Sky mail is keyword scanned however I am quite certain this is not the case. Google are receiving revenue directly from Sky and Virgin for the use of their Gmail platform and do not attach advertisements to outsourced mail, so to keyword scan it would be a waste of resource.

EDIT: Billy-Bob: as a general rule always consider email to be the equivalent of a postcard, not a letter inside an envelope. If you require an 'envelope' employ encryption.

I use GMail's web interface as well as having their POP option activated. The POP option is activated mainly to be able to recieve and send s/mime using Outlook Express, s/mime does not work using a webmail interface directly. When a gmail is recieved via a POP client it does not contain any adverts but looking at the web interface you can see a copy of the mail which has been scanned and injected with targetted ads. Of course you could activate the option NOT to leave a copy on the server BUT I have a sneaky suspician that your mail will still come through the server, still be scanned but it's just that you won't be able to see it via the web interface.

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by chrisdk

Anyone know what will happen with those of us who use more than ten mailboxes?

If you are a NTL customer and have say15 email addresses ending in @ntlworld.com you have the option of keeping all your mailboxes as they are and not taking a @virginmedia.com email address at all.

Now if you decide that you want to have even just one @virginmedia.com address you have to lose up to 6 @ntlworld.com email addresses to make room for them.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Moldova

If you are a NTL customer and have say15 email addresses ending in @ntlworld.com you have the option of keeping all your mailboxes as they are and not taking a @virginmedia.com email address at all.

Now if you decide that you want to have even just one @virginmedia.com address you have to lose up to 6 @ntlworld.com email addresses to make room for them.

I thought that the original plan was to allow @ntlworld.com etc and @virginmedia.com addresses at the same time as it could be complicated to remove all references to the @ntlworld.com address in one go. The VM Press Release indicates that this is no longer to be the case and that it is one or the other but not both.

Existing customers will then be migrated across to the new service at no extra cost and will be able to keep their existing @blueyonder.co.uk, @ntlworld.com or @virgin.net email addresses or choose to sign up for new @virginmedia.com email addresses.

So which is it?

[BenMcr]

It seems to be the latter