The existence of God

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Russ B

Yes here and there, why?

Just asking Russ.

Originally Posted by DRZ400

Russ B, foreverwar, xocemp, and lucy7, could you be so kind as to answer the above question, stating either 'Yes' or 'No', feel free to add a comment as to why you either stated 'Yes' or 'No' if you like.

All I'm trying to do is understand.

<cough, cough, splutter> excuse me, whilst I step out of the way of your rapidly expanding proboscis.......

Anyhoo, you are doing your old trick of changing the question when the original answer doesn't suit your purpose.

You originally asked Russ where dinosaurs were mentioned in the Bible - he pointed this out to you, along with the information that the word "dinosaur" originated in the 1800's, so it was of creatures of a similiar size/description, so the word dinosaur would not be in the bible.

Now you are turning the question around (not having received the answer you hoped for in the first place); but I will play along, as it's a quiet day and you are keeping me reasonably amused.

As I have stated before, in this thread and others, I do not believe in the Bible as literal truth (but others may, and that is their right and privilege), and since dinosaurs died out 65 million years ago (after a good innings of approx. 165 million years), and human-like hominids appeared approx. 6 million years ago, it is unlikely (imho) there was dinosaurs (as we know it, T. Rex, brontosaurus, diplidocus, etc) extant at the same time as early man.

However (and there is always a however), people today believe (and I am not one of them) in the Loch Ness monster (allegedly a plesiosaur-like creature), and other stuff like that, but there are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy©

btw, others with faith may disagree with me, as I do not speak for my fellow posters, just as I do not judge all atheists on your behaviours.

btw2, why are you asking xocemp? He is an atheist, as he stated in post #762

Originally Posted by xocemp

Your a non believer right?
Ok I'll take the stance of an agnostic, I can do this as an atheist because I done my homework, I've looked at it from many angles and I've spoken with men of faith and doubted my own thoughts for many years.....snippety snip snip...

© W. Shakespeare

[Halcyon]

Since dinosaurs were a lot bigger than humans and that they had massive teeth, could eat about anything, I doubt any humans around would have stayed alive very long.
Hence, Dinosaurs came before humans and although I believe that there is a God and that he did create the world, I think he put it in place for things to develop over time and from one species to the next.

As for the Lochness monster.....I personally believe the tourism industry can't have been doing too well up Scottland way and spinning this tale and shooting a few faked photos was a good way of succeeding in boosting the tourism = money.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Halcyon

Since dinosaurs were a lot bigger than humans and that they had massive teeth, could eat about anything, I doubt any humans around would have stayed alive very long.

About 230 million years ago, a group of animals called dinosaurs ruled the earth. They lived in many different habitats, from open plains to forests to the edges of swamps, lakes, and oceans.

Some dinosaurs were as tall as a five-storey building, and there were others no bigger than a chicken.

The name 'dinosaur' means 'most fearsome lizard'. However, dinosaurs were not lizards, though related to them. Some scientists think that dinosaurs were more closely related to birds.

Most dinosaurs were herbivores and ate plants.

[Peter_]

Is this still the God thread or is now the Primeval thread.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Moldova

Is this still the God thread or is now the Primeval thread.

Is that one the same size as a chicken?

[DRZ400]

Originally Posted by Gary L

Just asking Russ.

You noticed posts going missing too!! There were two in particular I was looking for.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by DRZ400

You noticed posts going missing too!! There were two in particular I was looking for.

You should take screen shots of before and after. like me

[Russ]

Only 2 posts from this thread have been removed, one was my own and the other was off-topic. Enough of the paranoia.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by DRZ400

You noticed posts going missing too!! There were two in particular I was looking for.

alleged evidence tampering eh

[kingbuxton]

From what I can tell

However, tanniyn is always translated into another word when we write it in English. Tanniyn occurs 28 times in the Bible and is normally translated “dragon.” It is also translated “serpent,” “sea monster,” “dinosaur,” “great creature,” and “reptile.”

Seems to have come from

In English translations, tanniyn may be translated as “sea monster” or “serpent”, but it is usually translated as “dragon”. These creatures are mentioned nearly thirty times in the Old Testament and are found both on land and in the water

No mention of Dino, so has he just added that bit to give it some weight. Or did Wikipedia steal from that site and a Darwin fan edited out the dino bit? Lots of what he has written is on Wiki, seems like he just padded it out a bit.

If you want to believe that the Behemoth, Leviathan and the rest are real then so are Harpies, Cyclops, Minotaur, Medusa.............

Would it not be far simpler to say that God didn't write the old testament, it was written after the fact and that Dinos had been and gone before it got written. And so they went amiss. If I believed in God creating the Earth, that's how I would look at it.

You can't link them to the Bible, considering the size and impact on the planet, they would get more mention than the odd vague description. Imagine how low on the food chain we would be if we existed at the same time.

Also, if people and dinos existed at the same time, then you would find human fossils that would carbon date millions of years ago, that's based on carbon dating being wrong, which it has to be to support the theory.

Nah, if you believe in God, best leave Dinos alone and hope that when you die they fit in someplace.

[DRZ400]

The 2 posts I was looking for may have been the ones delete!

[Russ]

Originally Posted by DRZ400

The 2 posts I was looking for may have been the ones delete!

One of them was mine (as I told you early, seems like you have a real 'thing' about ignoring what I post....) and the other was a member asking if things were off topic.

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Originally Posted by kingbuxton

Nah, if you believe in God, best leave Dinos alone and hope that when you die they fit in someplace.

Thing is the Book of Job describes something. It's clearly a creature that we don't have today. What doesn't make things any easier is the fact when Job was written there are a lot of words in use today that they simply had no use for, 'dinosaur' being one.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by kingbuxton

From what I can tell



Seems to have come from



No mention of Dino, so has he just added that bit to give it some weight. Or did Wikipedia steal from that site and a Darwin fan edited out the dino bit? Lots of what he has written is on Wiki, seems like he just padded it out a bit.

If you want to believe that the Behemoth, Leviathan and the rest are real then so are Harpies, Cyclops, Minotaur, Medusa.............

Would it not be far simpler to say that God didn't write the old testament, it was written after the fact and that Dinos had been and gone before it got written. And so they went amiss. If I believed in God creating the Earth, that's how I would look at it.

You can't link them to the Bible, considering the size and impact on the planet, they would get more mention than the odd vague description. Imagine how low on the food chain we would be if we existed at the same time.

Also, if people and dinos existed at the same time, then you would find human fossils that would carbon date millions of years ago, that's based on carbon dating being wrong, which it has to be to support the theory.

Nah, if you believe in God, best leave Dinos alone and hope that when you die they fit in someplace.

there are a lot of good points in your post

[kingbuxton]

Thing is the Book of Job describes something. It's clearly a creature that we don't have today.

Is that the Behemoth/Leviathan thing or something else? For me I have to take with a pinch of salt ancient descriptions of things like monsters. Greek myth is full of such stuff.

It would make more sense to me to say this is Earth v2 - Earth v1 was dinos, was a bit of a mess, got out of control and was stopped. God didn't write the Old Testament, it is based on what we know, I would assume passed on via Adam n Eve, and what God don't want you to know, at this moment, is none of your (not you, everyones) business. He does move in mysterious ways as they say.

Anyway, I don't believe in God, Dinos are my spanner in the works, and here I am coming up with theories, think your own up.....