The existence of God - Page 17

LondonRoad · 28-03-2009, 20:57

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Originally Posted by frogstamper

Aahh!! Brighton 3 Woking 1

I believe in God. I don't believe Brighton could score 3 goals...... unless there is a higher force at work.

kingbuxton · 28-03-2009, 21:01

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For once the usual suspects have been a little more respectful with their opinions

The problem is that each side tends to try and convert the other side to their opinion, in that they have such a strong belief that He/She/It does or doesn't exist that they can't take other people having an opposite view. As long as you say "I don't believe" but have respect for someone that does, and I do, it takes some doing to have faith, especially in todays climate, then there is no reason it should end up with a "My dad can beat up your dad" type discussion.

LondonRoad · 28-03-2009, 21:10

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Originally Posted by kingbuxton

The problem is that each side tends to try and convert the other side to their opinion, in that they have such a strong belief that He/She/It does or doesn't exist that they can't take other people having an opposite view. As long as you say "I don't believe" but have respect for someone that does, and I do, it takes some doing to have faith, especially in todays climate, then there is no reason it should end up with a "My dad can beat up your dad" type discussion.

I agree. You should never try to convert anybody who strongly believes one way or the other. It's not like an argument about who is going to win the league, or who will be elected, or best film at the Oscars. We'll find things like that out eventually whereas we've a while to wait for the day of reckoning..... I hope.

kingbuxton · 28-03-2009, 21:23

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we've a while to wait for the day of reckoning..... I hope

See, that is the funny thing. I don't believe, but I still hope it is real. Maybe it's me, I dunno, but to be passing the Pearl Gates on a conveyor to Hell will be kinda amusing in a "S**t" (Do it in a Dr Evil voice) sorta way, Ned Flanders made real pointing and laughing at me and Blasphemous Rumours blasting away in the background.

TheDaddy · 29-03-2009, 05:44

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Originally Posted by kingbuxton

The problem is that each side tends to try and convert the other side to their opinion, in that they have such a strong belief that He/She/It does or doesn't exist that they can't take other people having an opposite view. As long as you say "I don't believe" but have respect for someone that does, and I do, it takes some doing to have faith, especially in todays climate, then there is no reason it should end up with a "My dad can beat up your dad" type discussion.

Hmm in all the religious threads I have seen and participated in during my time here I have never seen anyone try and convert another member, what usually happens is some one posts a seemingly innocent question or article, receives answers which are then questioned by other members and then some dunce wades in with a line like 'it's all fairy tales init' the thread then degenerates and eventually gets closed.

Whilst I agree that people with strong beliefs either way wont be swayed they imo generally aren't the problem here.

Russ · 29-03-2009, 07:42

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Originally Posted by kingbuxton

The problem is that each side tends to try and convert the other side to their opinion, in that they have such a strong belief that He/She/It does or doesn't exist that they can't take other people having an opposite view.

That has NEVER happened on here. Nobody has ever tried to convert a non-believer to Christianity on CF.

kingbuxton · 29-03-2009, 14:29

Well that's what always seems to happen on the ones I have seen prev. You're wrong, no you are, no you are.............it wasn't specific to this place.

Gary L · 29-03-2009, 14:53

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That has NEVER happened on here. Nobody has ever tried to convert a non-believer to Christianity on CF.

I was propositioned by one once

I don't think he is trying to say that it's full on conversion to christianity. it's always been just differences of opinion given as far as I see.

Russ · 29-03-2009, 15:22

I'm on one of the 'sides' that KB refers to (he's pretty specific about that) and I've never tried to convert anyone.

kingbuxton · 29-03-2009, 16:00

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I'm on one of the 'sides' that KB refers to (he's pretty specific about that)

Did I? It was supposed to be a generalisation, I have no idea who the "Usual Suspects" are, if that is you, then I appologise, it was an accident on my part, it wasn't aimed at anyone, let alone anyone on here.

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they have such a strong belief that He/She/It does or doesn't exist

I also meant it in both directions, just in case that wasn't clear, it's not me bashing believers.

Russ · 29-03-2009, 16:10

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Did I? It was supposed to be a generalisation, I have no idea who the "Usual Suspects" are, if that is you, then I appologise, it was an accident on my part, it wasn't aimed at anyone, let alone anyone on here.

Well nobody on here has ever tried to force their religion on anyone else - and you didn't make it clear you weren't referring to CF but we've cleared that up now.

banjo · 29-03-2009, 16:10

Hebrews 5. 5-10

kingbuxton · 29-03-2009, 16:22

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but we've cleared that up now

Cool.

papa smurf · 29-03-2009, 16:45

m5 jn 6

Gary L · 29-03-2009, 16:52

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m5 jn 6