Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)

[one2escape]

I also like the + 1 channels very useful if you have things taping etc. Also around this time!

[TheDon]

Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23

That doesnt say no more hd just says that they have a release scheduel for them channels meantioned. will people jsut drop the hd thing if it means so much to you get sky if you cant get it and it means so much to you move house then get sky, i want hd but i aint that desperate i moan because virgin dnt have ti, there other services in my opionion make upo for it plus the majority of the stuff i want in hd i have on blu-ray

Indeed.

The only HD channels I'm interested in are the Sky ones anyway, and I know they aren't going to appear anytime soon because Sky want to milk them for their own revenue. I can live without them until ofcom tell Sky to play nice. If it gets to a stage I can't, I'll get Sky HD.

You have to wonder just how happy would actually people be if VM did get all the non-sky HD channels? The only ones I'd actually watch are Discovery and FX, and even then the stuff I watch on them doesn't really lend itself to HD. Sure it might be fun to watch Mythbusters blow some stuff up in HD, but, I can live without it, and I have a strange feeling Kari might lose some of her attractiveness in HD.

When we finally get ch4 HD I'll finally be able to watch deal or no deal and the Paul O'Grady show in HD! I can't wait!

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by KnightRider

Well said andrew ive said in numerous posts if you want hd go to sky.VM is an internet based media company offering tv and phone. All this moaning about hd people talk like theve been given a 3 year stretch of VM with no parole. Youre free to choose and if youre still moaning about hd you've made the wrong choice.

No, we don't have the choice. I want HD and VOD. I want it all! Is that unreasonable? For heaven's sake, I'm prepared to pay for it!

Sky is not an option for me as Sky Anytime isn't a patch on Virgin's On Demand service.

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

If there is supposed to be no more room for HD channels, VM MUST get rid of +1 CHANNELS, as they are a complete waste of time, so why have them.

VM have already confirmed that 4 more HD channels will be coming this year. The +1 channels are not preventing this.

The +1 channels are not a waste of time. There have been a number of occasions where the +1 channels have enabled me to record more programmes when I have had a programme clash.

Analogue will shut down soon and we will have loads more bandwidth. The new IPTV platform being rolled out this year and into next will resolve the problem completely.

I think you will find that it is not bandwidth that is preventing the addition of more HD channels, so we can leave the +1 channels alone.

[moroboshi]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

If there is supposed to be no more room for HD channels, VM MUST get rid of +1 CHANNELS, as they are a complete waste of time, so why have them.

Personally I agree. I record maybe 3 or 4 things a week at most, so I have absolutely no problems scheduling. The quality of TV is so mind blowingly low now it always amazes me people can find so much they want to watch that they clog up both the V+'s tuners.

[Media Boy UK]

Media Boy sent out emails to other broadcasters:

I have email the following broadcasters tonight: History, Pop Girl and Wedding TV.

[frogstamper]

Originally Posted by KnightRider

Well said andrew ive said in numerous posts if you want hd go to sky.VM is an internet based media company offering tv and phone. All this moaning about hd people talk like theve been given a 3 year stretch of VM with no parole. Youre free to choose and if youre still moaning about hd you've made the wrong choice.

VM is not a "internet based media company", in their own words they are a "quadplay provider", it just so happens that in the last year or so what with the BB speed increases emphasis has been on the broadband arm of the operation.
Obviously your quite happy without HD, good for you but there are others of us who are still waiting for VM to catch up, not really much to ask from the second largest private TV operator in the country is it?
Obviously if your fed up reading about us moaning about the lack of HD the answers simple isn't it...read another thread, then we are all happy.

[virginruinedntl]

freesat now has red button multi-screen BBCHD: http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/index.p...ow-interactive

looks like it will be for HD sports like different tennis matches.

Wonder if/when virgin will add this.

[akki007]

Originally Posted by virginruinedntl

freesat now has red button multi-screen BBCHD: http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/index.p...ow-interactive

looks like it will be for HD sports like different tennis matches.

Wonder if/when virgin will add this.

I would hazard a guess at....soon

[Andrewcrawford23]

Originally Posted by frogstamper

VM is not a "internet based media company", in their own words they are a "quadplay provider", it just so happens that in the last year or so what with the BB speed increases emphasis has been on the broadband arm of the operation.
Obviously your quite happy without HD, good for you but there are others of us who are still waiting for VM to catch up, not really much to ask from the second largest private TV operator in the country is it?
Obviously if your fed up reading about us moaning about the lack of HD the answers simple isn't it...read another thread, then we are all happy.

But frogstamp this isnt about the dicussion about the lack fo hd etc it about what coming soon even if coming soon in virign minds is 10 years i have said it many times i want hd but i dnt moan about, if it means that much to me i will get sky hd and more blu-ray which i am doing, at end of the day this thread isnt about moaning about the lack of hd

[gadge]

Originally Posted by akki007

I would hazard a guess at....soon

Or working on it.

[dodgem22]

Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23

But frogstamp this isnt about the dicussion about the lack fo hd etc it about what coming soon even if coming soon in virign minds is 10 years i have said it many times i want hd but i dnt moan about, if it means that much to me i will get sky hd and more blu-ray which i am doing, at end of the day this thread isnt about moaning about the lack of hd

with regards to getting sky hd some of us do not have that option due to land lords not allowing dishes or other physical factors.

So some of us have no option but to wait and hope the coming soon is sooner rather than later.

[Andrewcrawford23]

Originally Posted by dodgem22

with regards to getting sky hd some of us do not have that option due to land lords not allowing dishes or other physical factors.

So some of us have no option but to wait and hope the coming soon is sooner rather than later.

as i said before this thread isnt about the moaning of it there is another thread for this, and as i said previosuyl if it means that much to you, you would move since hd is the most important factor in your life (by you i dnt mean you personally)

[braysoj1]

is there any news on the bbci channel coming 2 vm like what there have on freeview 301 and 302

[greeninferno]

Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23

On the network currently the could carry about 8 HD channels but no room for other channels, however they coudl add more transport streams so they could carry say up to 50 but that would involve adding a lot of ts's to the network with analouge switch off they could probally carry between 30 and 200 hd channels but i dnt know the exact analopuge channels they ae broadcasting to give a better idea

Seems strange that they are taking so long to completely "turn off" analogue.

Does anyone know how many subscribe to analogue services - surely it must be significent or they would have done away with it by now - even if just in prep for the arrival AT SOME POINT of significent HD TV.

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Originally Posted by Horizon

.....note, only on VOD!

Overall, yes.

VM could launch a few HD channels (CH4HD and ITVHD) and probably will, but that will be it for 18 months+.

No idea what you mean about assurances, once a contract is signed, that's it.

As for the network, Berkett gave a very insightful presentation to the City last year in which he explained exactly what capacity VM has. So here it is (roughly):

VM has 750Mhz of frequency (capacity) on their network. This is split into 75 slots, or channels. VM use these slots like this, as at November of last year:

28 - Analogue TV
31 - Digital TV
2 - 10mb broadband
4 - 50/20 broadband downstream
4 - 50/20 broadband upstream (being implemented now)
6 - VOD/Interactive tv

1 analogue tv channel = about 6 (of good quality) digital SD channels or 2 HD channels. More channels can be squeezed in, but the quality goes down.

So you see that by switching analogue off, (no major upgrades necessary) VM will have oodles of capacity, but at the moment they have room for about 30 new SD channels, or, could squeeze in 4/5 HD channels.

New compression and transmission technologies will allow VM to have even more channels in the future, so capacity is not a problem, it's just how they CHOOSE to use it. VM don't need to "broadcast" channels over broadband yet using DOSCIS3, they have a cable tv network for that! But, eventually all channels will be "broadcast" over broadband, but that's several years away and will free up even more capacity.

Thanks for that - very clear - even to me

I can't see why they don't just offer RIGHT NOW what little there is available from ITV HD and C4 HD as a sweetener to all those still waiting for SOMETHING while the SKY OFCOM debate rumbles on.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23

as i said before this thread isnt about the moaning of it there is another thread for this, and as i said previosuyl if it means that much to you, you would move since hd is the most important factor in your life (by you i dnt mean you personally)

...And as I have said before Andrew, discussions on this thread about when HD channels are coming are perfectly legitimate. Media Boy's post #1 covers this and so I don't know why some contributors continue to say that discussion of HD channels on this thread is not appropriate.

It is appropriate, and many of us are interested in this. Hence the number of posts!