Virgin media broadband over VPN - Page 2

PaTr10T · 22-03-2009, 21:13

LOL

Thats exactly what I described a little earlier only sir John suggested no need for vpn which is quite right however, you then need to consider nat port forwarding which ultimately is not as secure as an 'on demand' dial up vpn.

Read my earlier post again . . slowly :-)

Andy is also right on with Logmein although I believe there is usually a charge asociated . . .

keogh03 · 22-03-2009, 21:20

Cheers for that Andy will check it, and will it let me download movies etc.. from my home pc where my 20mb is @20 mb and then I can view it when downloaded on my laptop at my parents house...using logmein....

Zhadnost · 22-03-2009, 21:22

At your parents house, the maximum speed you will be able to download at is either the upload speed of your VM account or the download speed of your parents internet connection, whichever is slowest. (well, you may gain a little bit if you use LZO compression on the VPN link, but not much).

If you remotely control your home machine from your parents house (VNC, RDP, xterm etc.), it will still get the 20Mbit service although it may become a bit unusable if you don't have QoS properly set up.

keogh03 · 22-03-2009, 21:23

Cheers Patriot

You have been helpful did not mean do diss your earlier idea it jjust sounded pretty technical for a novice like me but i think I could get my head round remote access program like log me in as long as it does th job.
But thanks everyone for your help you have been very patient cheers

**Chris** · 22-03-2009, 21:39

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Originally Posted by keogh03

Cheers for that Andy will check it, and will it let me download movies etc.. from my home pc where my 20mb is @20 mb and then I can view it when downloaded on my laptop at my parents house...using logmein....

You can remotely command your home PC to download a movie, and it will do that download at 20Mb, but if you then want your PC to serve it to you at your parents house, it will only be able to transfer it to you at 768Kb as that is the upstream speed on your Virgin 20-meg service. This is a little slower than the 1Mb download available at your parents house. As I said eariler, you will only be able to do anything at the speed of the slowest point in the network and in this scenario the slowest point is your own computer's upstream speed.

768kb I would guess is unlikely to be sufficient to view a movie or TV programme in real time.

keogh03 · 22-03-2009, 22:04

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If you remotely control your home machine from your parents house (VNC, RDP, xterm etc.), it will still get the 20Mbit service although it may become a bit unusable if you don't have QoS properly set up.

Cheers for that - sorry for appearing thick but what is Qos setup, and will I be able to view video content downloaded at my house remotely at my parents house

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Cheers Chris I don't know its like one step forward and two steps back aint it.
I did not realise that remote viewing wouyld mean using meaning uploading just 768kb I just figuered that i can view my slingbox from my house on my parents laptop quite comfortbaly at 400kb so I figured a movie thats already been downloaded would not be a problem

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Cheers Andy
I have had a look at logmein but it does not support video playback so if I downloaded a video remotely, I would not be able to view it on my parents laptop, unless I converted it to Windows display which i did not understand

**Chris** · 22-03-2009, 22:05

It all depends on the bitrate of the downloaded movie a lower quality file would be more likely to be viewable over a limited connection; a ripped HD TV programme certainly wouldn't be.

Pushkar · 23-03-2009, 08:25

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Originally Posted by Chris

It all depends on the bitrate of the downloaded movie a lower quality file would be more likely to be viewable over a limited connection; a ripped HD TV programme certainly wouldn't be.

Well if he is using a Remote viewer, then won't the movie lag as the fps is alot lower.

Graham M · 23-03-2009, 08:41

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Originally Posted by TaiLZ

Well if he is using a Remote viewer, then won't the movie lag as the fps is alot lower.

Why would you even try and do it that way?

Zhadnost · 23-03-2009, 10:00

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Originally Posted by keogh03

Cheers for that - sorry for appearing thick but what is Qos setup, and will I be able to view video content downloaded at my house remotely at my parents house

QoS is a method by which you can decide how important different types of network traffic is.

In this case, if you are remote controlling a machine that is downloading heavily, then the download process may swallow up a lot of upstream bandwidth and without traffic shaping, the machine you are viewing it from will have difficulty being able to talk to it at any speed. (as network traffic queues up to leave your home machine at your modem).

You will not be able to view video content like this. (well, not really).

sammyjayuk · 23-03-2009, 14:01

For the specific case of wanting to watch video at your parents' home that is stored at your own home, remote desktop programs are completely inappropriate (especially VNC, which is always inappropriate over the public internet as it has no encryption). I would recommend using something designed for the job, like VLC, to stream the video from your home PC because it can transcode the video into a lower bitrate. You will still need remote desktop software to set up the stream, for which you'll need a little patience if you're using VLC, so make sure you use something with encryption - or of course tunnel VNC through SSH.

With the right software, a little knowledge and a fair bit of patience you can come up with a completely free point and click system. VLC, SSH and VNC are all quite complex but there's tons of information about them - Google is your friend!

Sam (who misses his Mac something awful but realises he's still fairly comfortable with Linux, even after all this time)

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Ohhh, you have a Slingbox? If your home computer has a TV output, and your Slingbox has a free input, then just connect them up and you'll be away! No faffing around with VLC, etc...

Sam