Why hackers still here ? - Page 5

20-03-2009, 01:59

But clearly fanning flames by posting on a forum where fully paid for service customers post. I think this forum has enough trolls that don't steal their service and may have speed issues without having you here waving your free service, no STM modem in people's faces.

hackor_cable · 20-03-2009, 02:04

mick I pay for the top tear service

whats the harm in playing with a spare modem If you read my post you would see I had said that

hacking them is a bit of fun

Gary L · 20-03-2009, 02:07

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Originally Posted by xocemp

But clearly fanning flames by posting on a forum where fully paid for service customers post. I think this forum has enough trolls that don't steal their service and may have speed issues without having you here waving your free service, no STM modem in people's faces.

Oh come on. do we have to scrape the bottom of the barrel already?

he hasn't broken any of the T&C's and he may be a different view to what we want. but smoking is bad and smoking is good. there's 2 sides always. otherwise it's biased.

**Mick** · 20-03-2009, 02:10

What's the harm...? Ooh let me think..

You are taking extra broadband that you haven't paid for and isn't rightfully yours.

Just because it is currently possible to do what you are doing doesn't make it a right.

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Originally Posted by Gary L

he hasn't broken any of the T&C's .

I'll be the judge of that thanks.

hackor_cable · 20-03-2009, 02:12

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Originally Posted by Mick

What's the harm...? Ooh let me think..

You are taking extra broadband that you haven't paid for and isn't rightfully yours.

Just because it is currently possible to do what you are doing doesn't make it a right.

how am taking extra when Im already paying for the fastest service they do

buy pluging my own modem in ?

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mick by they way have you guest who i am yet ?
do you remember me yet?

20-03-2009, 02:18

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Originally Posted by Gary L

Oh come on. do we have to scrape the bottom of the barrel already?

he hasn't broken any of the T&C's and he may be a different view to what we want. but smoking is bad and smoking is good. there's 2 sides always. otherwise it's biased.

And after reading your many posts GaryL do we have to go in the direction of you siding with whatever will draw the most amusement for you to side with weather you believe in the cause or no. And then drawing debate to it for your own pleasure?
Not my kind of game sir. I'll beg your forgiveness and decline, good look fishing

hackor_cable · 20-03-2009, 02:28

beds time i guess school day ?

Gary L · 20-03-2009, 02:33

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Originally Posted by xocemp

And after reading your many posts GaryL do we have to go in the direction of you siding with whatever will draw the most amusement for you to side with weather you believe in the cause or no. And then drawing debate to it for your own pleasure?
Not my kind of game sir. I'll beg your forgiveness and decline, good look fishing

I am not siding. I have an opinion.
but it's too late now, I see the signs of can we please close this thread it's not going the way I want it to go. others have an opinion not confirming to mine.

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Originally Posted by hackor_cable

beds time i guess school day ?

English tomorrow

20-03-2009, 02:41

Which opinion Gary L?
The "scraping the bottom of the barrel" or the opinion sorry "knowing" you have of VM knowingly oversubscribing?
I refer you to post # 66

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Originally Posted by Gary L

English tomorrow

Come on, scraping the bottom of the barrel already? Mocking the mans English, and after you defended his English skills in another thread.

hackor_cable · 20-03-2009, 02:41

Lmao

Gary L · 20-03-2009, 02:53

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Originally Posted by xocemp

Which opinion Gary L?

My opinion I have on this subject and its contents.

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The "scraping the bottom of the barrel"

That was way later and of no relevance.

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or the opinion sorry "knowing" you have of VM knowingly oversubscribing?

I do know that they oversubscribe. I know from being told by support in the Virgin media news groups where support have openly stated that this is the case in some areas.

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I refer you to post # 66

And after reading your many posts GaryL do we have to go in the direction of you siding with whatever will draw the most amusement for you to side with weather you believe in the cause or no. And then drawing debate to it for your own pleasure?
Not my kind of game sir. I'll beg your forgiveness and decline, good look fishing

Post 66 was where you say to everyone that GaryL should be hanged because I can put the questions, but when asked I need a get out clause.

20-03-2009, 03:04

I hardly think that VM N|group support know if a business model is proposed and actioned to knowingly oversubscribe a network. Do you think they would be privy to this information?

hackor_cable · 20-03-2009, 03:19

yes they do that is the buissness model

thats how they make there dam money

if they sell 20meg cons for they current price and every one uses there 20meg to capacity they lose money.

they rely on those that only use it for www and email for a few hours a day

buy over subscribing they increases there profit margin more

they truth is they can not provide a 24/7 20meg connection and make any money out at the subscription price.

the bottom line in case as with anything.
hence why they dont bother with cloners much is because i cost more to stop em that it will cost to stick there heads in the sand.

what they will do is blame us till they sign up more on 50meg then add inprove the network a bit an pretend there aint no clones

like they did last time when the 20meg was launched

Raistlin · 20-03-2009, 07:21

Clarification: A Person who cracks/reflashes a cable modem to steal services from any company is not a 'Hacker'. At best they are a 'Cracker', if people really must romanticise these things, in reality though they are nothing but a 'Thief' (or T413f if you will).

Thank you. This has been a public service broadcast on behalf of real Hackers everywhere.

Zhadnost · 20-03-2009, 08:49

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Originally Posted by hackor_cable

mick I pay for the top tear service

You have already admitted that you use it to avoid STM, If you want a servcice without STM, you should pay the premium to have the Business version.

You have also admitted that you have managed to use one of the 50Mbit profiles in a non 50Mbit area, how's that only getting the service you pay for?