The VM HD Discussion Thread - Page 3

danny85 · 25-02-2009, 10:57

well here is for hoping am not holding my breath though

akki007 · 25-02-2009, 11:13

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Originally Posted by ShadowTD

Danny85: It's the conference call at 1pm that usually yields the interesting stuff

http://www.thomson-webcast.net/uk/di...a4acaa74dcf5d0

Mobes · 25-02-2009, 11:21

I think they will mention HD! Puely becuase of what they said a while ago. I doubt even VM will go back on what they said when it was so open and public. I doubt though we will get all 4 HD channels as promised. My best guess CHN4 HD and ITV HD (or am i being utterly naieve lol)

CrossyX · 25-02-2009, 13:14

Nothing new then really on the HD front...

demented · 25-02-2009, 13:50

Asked a serious question about regulation by a questioner with some sense

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How long is a piece of string....

Neil Burkett.

The level of some of the people running this company

I didn't catch the first fifteen minutes so maybe there was some mention in there of HD. Otherwise virgin media are a bunch of liars, let the exodus start now

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CrossyX · 25-02-2009, 13:56

They just mentioned that Ofcom are investigating sky and there distribution of HD channels. A mention of May/June when the outcome maybe be clearer then. No mention of the HD channels that were supposed to be here in the first 3 months of 09 and yet more news on VOD.

demented · 25-02-2009, 13:59

I'm not impressed. The second paytv consultation was published recently. I can't see where he gets that May/June date from, it's clear it will probably drag on well into next year.

Mobes · 25-02-2009, 14:01

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Originally Posted by CrossyX

. No mention of the HD channels that were supposed to be here in the first 3 months of 09 .

I have to say i'm rather dissapointed. I fully understand that it's a very small % of us that have V+ boxes but VM don't seem to understand that until they increase their HD list they won't be encouraging any more people to upgrade.

It's a vivious circle!

I really wanted to hear comfirmation of the HD channels that had been promised... i guess we can forget them now!

akki007 · 25-02-2009, 14:05

Yep, I think you're right Mobes. Fairly obvious that linear HD channels are completely off the menu for VM. What I don't understand is, why promise 4 by Q1 09? That's just setting yourself up for a fall!

Andrewcrawford23 · 25-02-2009, 14:08

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Originally Posted by akki007

Yep, I think you're right Mobes. Fairly obvious that linear HD channels are completely off the menu for VM. What I don't understand is, why promise 4 by Q1 09? That's just setting yourself up for a fall!

Well i have to say it that was teh dumbist thing virign could have done they should have onyl said that if they had contracts signed for them but they onyl 1 for ch4 hd and that is the onyl one i tihnk we will see by 1st 09 btw 1st 09 for virgin ends in april i think

demented · 25-02-2009, 14:10

I'm more than disappointed, I'm furious. Well not that furious as I was expecting 1 HD channel and then to be vague about when precisely the others were coming. But not even fulfilling that.

What I can't understand is why switch Gold off analogue, on demand uses a totally different bit of their spectrum? What the smeg have they used it on?

I suppose the only left hope is that they will launch one of them but they'll randomly launch it one day and not tell anybody about it in true Telewest/VM style.

TheDon · 25-02-2009, 14:11

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Originally Posted by demented

Asked a serious question about regulation by a questioner with some sense

Neil Burkett.

The level of some of the people running this company

I didn't catch the first fifteen minutes so maybe there was some mention in there of HD. Otherwise virgin media are a bunch of liars, let the exodus start now

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What was wrong with his response?

He gave a serious answer. In that, he really has no clue, and neither does anyone else, and that trying to give a date is pointless.

He really can't predict when ofcom will announce any sort of decision, and if he tries to put a time line to it when it undoubtedly passes due to appeal after appeal after delay he'll get lambasted for making promises that we'd have sky's HD channels by then.

I'd say the questioner had zero sense, as his question was never going to get a real answer, simply because one doesn't exist for it. You can't judge with any degree of accuracy when things like this will be settled, it is basically in the alignment of the planets.

demented · 25-02-2009, 14:14

It wasn't a serious answer and that was my problem with it. It is a serious question session for investors, journalists and so on listening in and the guy just treats us with contempt. Behaving like that is inappropriate, a journalist of investor with any balls should rip into the man for giving such a mickey mouse answer.

Ofcom have just published, it was perfectly possible for him to quote bits of it and give an answer based on facts. He didn't.

TheDon · 25-02-2009, 14:27

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Originally Posted by demented

It wasn't a serious answer and that was my problem with it. It is a serious question session for investors, journalists and so on listening in and the guy just treats us with contempt. Behaving like that is inappropriate, a journalist of investor with any balls should rip into the man for giving such a mickey mouse answer.

Ofcom have just published, it was perfectly possible for him to quote bits of it and give an answer based on facts. He didn't.

It was a serious answer.

The question was, when can we expect to get hold of Sky's content (actually, the guy asking just said premier league football, which means nothing, as we have sky sports with the exception of match choice, so he didn't even ask a coherent question).

The answer to that is impossible to say, and that was the response he got.

You seem to have an issue with the use of the phrase "how long is a piece of string", but it's one that gets thrown around a fair bit in meetings, especially on questions as open ended and so open to debate as that one.

He wasn't treating the listener with contempt, but pointing out that it's an issue he really has no control over, and as such isn't in line to make a prediction on it.

As for the latest Ofcom publication, it's entirely irrelevant to being able to answer the question, as all that was published was the responses from the interested parties to the latest round of consults. Ofcom have not made any sort of publication that indicates how they feel on the issue, or what sort of time frame they feel they need to look into it, so none of it is relevant.

Mobes · 25-02-2009, 14:27

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Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23

Well i have to say it that was teh dumbist thing virign could have done they should have onyl said that if they had contracts signed for them but they onyl 1 for ch4 hd and that is the onyl one i tihnk we will see by 1st 09 btw 1st 09 for virgin ends in april i think

So are we still expecting CHN4 HD Andrew? I'm a tad confused now.