27-12-2008, 11:20
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Join Date: Oct 2003
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Typical of VM services
I complained to the ISPA and Virgin were quick on the phone to find out what my problem is to which I replied that my speed is no where near what I pay for and I have a DNS issue a couple of tests were made and a problem was seen but they wanted me to connect direct to the modem unfortunately this could not be done at the time and arrangements were made for a return call today at 10:00 hrs well it is now 12:05hrs and still waiting I even went out and bought a long patch cable so that we could try and solve the problem once and for all.
I have carried out test such as in safe mode with networking and normal and my speed does not go above 3.8Mbps and if I run wireless through the router my speed drops down to 2.1 Mbps and this was done on thinkbroadband.com recommeneded by the service team.
Date Downstream Upstream IP Address Connection
27/12/08 12:07 3391.65 Kbps 720.70 Kbps xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx cable modem normal
27/12/08 09:51 3572.26 Kbps 715.86 Kbps xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx cable safe mode with networking
26/12/08 21:27 2054.15 Kbps 715.85 Kbps xx.x.xx.xx wireless router
26/12/08 21:22 3896.04 Kbps 719.04 Kbps xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx cable modem normal
26/12/08 21:12 3790.87 Kbps 719.10 Kbps xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx cable modem safemode
26/12/08 21:06 3920.67 Kbps 717.21 Kbps xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx cable modem normal
26/12/08 16:43 2025.76 Kbps 716.09 Kbps xx.xx.xx.xx wireless router normal
26/12/08 15:41 2304.23 Kbps 718.47 Kbps xx.xx.xx.xx wireless router safe mode
as one can see my speeds are crap and I just hope the service departments comes back to me this weekend other wise another email to the ISPA.
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27-12-2008, 11:23
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cf.mega poster
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Lincoln
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Re: Typical of VM services
how bizarre, maybe it is something to do with your powel levels on the modem because you are getting your max upload speed no problemo. I am sure one of the tech dudes (here) can help you out. Read this and check your stats and post the info below in anticipation of a tech dude asking.
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12...al-levels.html
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27-12-2008, 11:44
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cf.addict
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Re: Typical of VM services
thanks for the quick reply here are my download levels
Downstream Lock : Locked
Downstream Channel Id : 35
Downstream Frequency : 314750000 Hz
Downstream Modulation : QAM256
Downstream Symbol Rate : 6952 Ksym/sec
Downstream Interleave Depth : taps12Increment17
Downstream Receive Power Level : 8.1 dBmV
Downstream SNR : 37.4 dB
hope this will help
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27-12-2008, 11:47
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Kidderminster
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Re: Typical of VM services
To quote Parky from earlier today:
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Originally Posted by parky
Yes there are still issues in Warrington, but VM seem be totally uninterested.
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I'm assuming as Warrington now has 50Meg on the newly installed DOCSIS 3 hardware, you'll probably find all your speed issues go away when 20Meg moves to new hardware using DOCSIS 2. This should be next year sometime, exactly at what stage next year I don’t know.
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27-12-2008, 17:18
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Re: Typical of VM services
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Originally Posted by Noggo
To quote Parky from earlier today:
I'm assuming as Warrington now has 50Meg on the newly installed DOCSIS 3 hardware, you'll probably find all your speed issues go away when 20Meg moves to new hardware using DOCSIS 2. This should be next year sometime, exactly at what stage next year I don’t know.
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what a joke. if i decided to stop paying my bill until 'next year sometime', i'm sure virgin would have something to say about it.
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27-12-2008, 18:12
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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Re: Typical of VM services
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Originally Posted by Noggo
To quote Parky from earlier today:
I'm assuming as Warrington now has 50Meg on the newly installed DOCSIS 3 hardware, you'll probably find all your speed issues go away when 20Meg moves to new hardware using DOCSIS 2. This should be next year sometime, exactly at what stage next year I don’t know.
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Warrington 20Mb/s Modems have already migrated across!
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27-12-2008, 18:16
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire
Age: 47
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Re: Typical of VM services
Quote:
Originally Posted by iTekweni
thanks for the quick reply here are my download levels
Downstream Lock : Locked
Downstream Channel Id : 35
Downstream Frequency : 314750000 Hz
Downstream Modulation : QAM256
Downstream Symbol Rate : 6952 Ksym/sec
Downstream Interleave Depth : taps12Increment17
Downstream Receive Power Level : 8.1 dBmV
Downstream SNR : 37.4 dB
hope this will help
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I actually suspect that you're on the DOCSIS 3 platform right now - 314.75MHz has never been used on either ntl, TW or the ex-CWC ntl network as a downstream frequency, those being 402.75MHz on original ntl, 586.75MHz on ex-CWC, such as Warrington, and 331MHz on ex-Telewest. You're 2 channels below the standard Telewest frequency taking into account the offset difference between ntl and Telewest, ntl using IRC and Telewest HRC.
This is a DOCSIS 3 downstream, I'm 95% sure of it, so you need a tech as this downstream has no business being congested and isn't, your speeds are pants whatever the time of day.
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27-12-2008, 18:19
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Re: Typical of VM services
Quote:
Originally Posted by iTekweni
thanks for the quick reply here are my download levels
Downstream Lock : Locked
Downstream Channel Id : 35
Downstream Frequency : 314750000 Hz
Downstream Modulation : QAM256
Downstream Symbol Rate : 6952 Ksym/sec
Downstream Interleave Depth : taps12Increment17
Downstream Receive Power Level : 8.1 dBmV
Downstream SNR : 37.4 dB
hope this will help
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Is that Downstream frequency correct as I have never seen that figure before, it is usually 330750000hz, could you check it again and post back the results.
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27-12-2008, 18:22
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Re: Typical of VM services
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Originally Posted by whydoIneedatech
Is that Downstream frequency correct as I have never seen that figure before, it is usually 330750000hz, could you check it again and post back the results.
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That's a DOCSIS 3 downstream WDINAT. OP is in Warrington and on 20Mbit so migrated to the 10k. 314.75MHz is exactly 2 channels below the standard.
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27-12-2008, 18:23
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Re: Typical of VM services
Quote:
Originally Posted by Broadbandings
That's a DOCSIS 3 downstream WDINAT. OP is in Warrington and on 20Mbit so migrated to the 10k.
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Thanks mate, its a new on me but no surprise on a EX-NTL connection.
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27-12-2008, 18:25
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Re: Typical of VM services
Quote:
Originally Posted by broadbandbug
Warrington 20Mb/s Modems have already migrated across!
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My Bad!!
I thought that the migration of 20M and 10M was going to be done at a later date and not at the time that 50M was rolled out in an area.
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27-12-2008, 18:26
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Re: Typical of VM services
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Originally Posted by whydoIneedatech
Thanks mate, its a new on me but no surprise on a EX-NTL connection. 
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It's ok I know you're in tech support and an employee so would be the last to know
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27-12-2008, 18:42
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Re: Typical of VM services
Quote:
Originally Posted by Broadbandings
It's ok I know you're in tech support and an employee so would be the last to know 
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But not an NTL tech so less likely to know their frequencies, plus the are not many trained up for 50Mb calls yet.
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27-12-2008, 21:00
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Re: Typical of VM services
I thought the migration of 20M to the new DOCSIS 3 hardware was meant to cure all the download speed issues?
Approx. 4Mb/s isn't cured in by book
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28-12-2008, 12:01
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Re: Typical of VM services
Quote:
Originally Posted by whydoIneedatech
But not an NTL tech so less likely to know their frequencies, plus the are not many trained up for 50Mb calls yet. 
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It was more a reference to tech support usually being the last to know these things thanks to the always excellent level of internal communications
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