Virgin Salespeople with Criminal Records - Page 3

Welshchris · 18-12-2008, 00:11

i have a criminal record for assault after i acted in self defence once when attacked. I wouldnt like to think it would count against me if i wanted to take a job.

Virgin Salesman · 18-12-2008, 00:12

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Originally Posted by Solventcandy

From what i can gather he just don't wanna work with people that have made some mistakes!!

Live and let live i say!

And TBH you could resign and tell the press, the only person that would end up looking daft is yourself. VM would be respected because we now live in a day an age where acceptance is key.

Just because you have a criminal record shouldn't stop you moving on and getting on with your life....

I totally agree but these people have lied on their job application.

Does that mean if i give fraudulant details to VM at point of job application that is Ok?

Thats what is happening!

Having a spent criminal record should not stop an idividual moving on but we are playing with customers lives here.

There will be only one party looking daft and it wont be me!

BenMcr · 18-12-2008, 00:18

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Originally Posted by Virgin Salesman

I totally agree but these people have lied on their job application.

Does that mean if i give fraudulant details to VM at point of job application that is Ok?

How do you know they have lied? Have you seen their job application forms? Have they told you they lied?

For all you know they could have been 100% honest and for whatever reason Virgin may have given them a chance

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It seems to me there is something more that just concern about customers here

Russ · 18-12-2008, 00:23

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Originally Posted by Virgin Salesman

I totally agree but these people have lied on their job application.

Does that mean if i give fraudulant details to VM at point of job application that is Ok?

Thats what is happening!

Having a spent criminal record should not stop an idividual moving on but we are playing with customers lives here.

There will be only one party looking daft and it wont be me!

Have you considered my offer?

Virgin Salesman · 18-12-2008, 00:30

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Originally Posted by BenMcr

How do you know they have lied? Have you seen their job application forms? Have they told you they lied?

For all you know they could have been 100% honest and for whatever reason Virgin may have given them a chance

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It seems to me there is something more that just concern about customers here

Yeah there is more than just concern about customers...........

My job security and any negative press reports about direct sales in general if this gets out.

It came to a head today when I was talking to a colleague about their recent conviction they had last week. What was I gonna say - "thanks for sharing that with me but i must report you to HR"?

Dont shoot the messenger here boss I raised this issue for us to discuss and hopefully get sorted. We have plenty of good people working at VM and this is to support and protect them as well as me!

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Originally Posted by Russ B

Have you considered my offer?

Yes please - go for it.

BenMcr · 18-12-2008, 00:31

So you work for Virgin Direct Sales?

The surely you must be able to contact GSID (same people who deal with STB fraud) They would be the most appropriate people to report this to, rather than a web forum?

rogerdraig · 18-12-2008, 00:39

suggested reading

http://www.crb.gov.uk/Default.aspx?page=308

http://www.crb.gov.uk/Default.aspx?page=310

dont see sales reps in that any where

i have the full pack here lol ( another boring read ) not one mention of salesman in it either

Virgin Salesman · 18-12-2008, 00:42

You obvously work for Virgin Media so your opinions are biased.

My experiences of GSID so far have not been the best so I am not going there.

Its in the open now which is where it should be - VM are aware of the risks but have decided to keep it quiet - until now!

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Yeah that will be why British Gas, Eon, Npower, Scottish Power and Sky do it as part of their recuitment process???!!!!

rogerdraig · 18-12-2008, 00:49

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Originally Posted by Virgin Salesman

You obvously work for Virgin Media so your opinions are biased.

My experiences of GSID so far have not been the best so I am not going there.

Its in the open now which is where it should be - VM are aware of the risks but have decided to keep it quiet - until now!

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Yeah that will be why British Gas, Eon, Npower, Scottish Power and Sky do it as part of their recuitment process???!!!!

i could understand why those ( not including sky ) would CRB engineers who may have to enter property to fix things in an emergency even if an adult wasn't there and or fixing equipment in an elderly persons home

but sky and virgin as far as i am aware ( as i dont work for them ( should see my posts on sky 1 lol ) ) require an adult or at least some one over 16 to be present for the engineers to carry out any work inside a property

and i would hope they require adults to be present to sign contracts and fill out direct debits

so no need to do crb and they may even find themselves on the end of a human rights case if they turned down some one for a job based on some of te stuff a CRB could throw up as some of the stuff that can be in there is only usable if you are doing certain prescribed jobs

BenMcr · 18-12-2008, 00:52

I have feeling this is going to rumble on until it all gets out of hand

rogerdraig · 18-12-2008, 00:54

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Originally Posted by BenMcr

I have feeling this is going to rumble on until it all gets out of hand

me never

Virgin Salesman · 18-12-2008, 01:08

Guys

It is obvious to me that some respondants to this thread are current Virgin Media employee's working in compliance/security so want to cover this up/make it less important than it is.

I wanted to release the information I have this way to highlight current problems via a forum to address the current issue, please be advised I have recieved several Personal Messages from Virgin Media employees who probably want me to keep "stum" and take this internal.

I would have done this if I had good experiences to prior issues raised to them via my Area Manager.

I will keep you informed and updated as things progress.

I need to go now as I am up early and out with my criminal associates to knock doors and sell "cable" to unsuspecting customers!

Russ · 18-12-2008, 08:53

That's not true at all. We have a good idea about who works for VM on the site. Just because people don't agree with you doesn't mean there's any sort of cover up.

If you want me to get involved I'll need you to PM me with your concerns, I'll put it to the rest of the team and we'll go from there.

**Hugh** · 18-12-2008, 09:03

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Originally Posted by Virgin Salesman

Guys

It is obvious to me that some respondants to this thread are current Virgin Media employee's working in compliance/security so want to cover this up/make it less important than it is.

I wanted to release the information I have this way to highlight current problems via a forum to address the current issue, please be advised I have recieved several Personal Messages from Virgin Media employees who probably want me to keep "stum" and take this internal.

I would have done this if I had good experiences to prior issues raised to them via my Area Manager.

I will keep you informed and updated as things progress.

I need to go now as I am up early and out with my criminal associates to knock doors and sell "cable" to unsuspecting customers!

Yet another conspiracy theory.
a) "it is obvious to me" - unsubstantiated smear
b)"probably want me to keep stum" - well, do they or don't they?

"criminal associates" - not at all overdramatising - if these colleagues are escaped convicts, I share your concern; if they have served their sentence, what is the problem?

btw, what is "cable"? Is it like cable?

webcrawler2050 · 18-12-2008, 10:49

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I wanted to release the information I have this way to highlight current problems via a forum to address the current issue, please be advised I have recieved several Personal Messages from Virgin Media employees who probably want me to keep "stum" and take this internal.

Sounds like to me somebody needs to take their medicine again. You seem to be blowing this WAY out of propertion, as alot of people have said, how do you know they have lied on their applications? How would you know? Was you sat in on the interview with them? I think the answer to all of those would be a resounding NO!

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I will keep you informed and updated as things progress.

Please don't!! This generally sounds like a pile of old tosh!

Can a mod lock this thread now before it gets a little out of hand and we keep going round and round, saying the same things.