IP Addresses...

[Andrewcrawford23]

Originally Posted by BBKing

Cisco also provide the majority of the DHCP software, of course, which may have been what he was groping towards.

Correct but broadbanding think i should speak techical terms.

1. users rarely understand it unless they have some knowledge.
2 means mroe work for m when i can explain it ona much simply note.

btw whenever i get lease form virgin dhcp server it usual quite long well the period when it due to expire it quite far away longer than 7 days i aint sure excately how logn it is just guessed at 300days

[Ignitionnet]

I think you got it right with the 'guess' part at the end Andrew, having pulled the 300 day figure out of the air and tried to pass it off as fact I think you saw a router doing DHCP at work once and assumed that's how Virgin did it.

Read your DHCP lease, they are 7 days, they expire after 7 days, if you're looking at the DHCP leases on your PCs they will of course be different as they are getting leases from your IPCOP box. That lease length will vary depending on what's in your dhcpd's config.

That you seemed to think dial up IP address allocation ran in a similar way to cable and other DHCP based services says you have no idea what you're talking about.

I seriously doubt you knew that Virgin use Cisco Network Registrar, and as CNR is a DHCP standards compliant server it has no relevance at all to DHCP leases anyway, these being set as per normal. The only extra parameters are Cisco specific AV-Pairs which are nothing to do with this discussion.

Think it's best if I stick you on ignore, I'll just get myself into trouble if we keep going down this route.

[Andrewcrawford23]

Originally Posted by Broadbandings

I think you got it right with the 'guess' part at the end Andrew, having pulled the 300 day figure out of the air and tried to pass it off as fact I think you saw a router doing DHCP at work once and assumed that's how Virgin did it.

Read your DHCP lease, they are 7 days, they expire after 7 days, if you're looking at the DHCP leases on your PCs they will of course be different as they are getting leases from your IPCOP box. That lease length will vary depending on what's in your dhcpd's config.

That you seemed to think dial up IP address allocation ran in a similar way to cable and other DHCP based services says you have no idea what you're talking about.

I seriously doubt you knew that Virgin use Cisco Network Registrar, and as CNR is a DHCP standards compliant server it has no relevance at all to DHCP leases anyway, these being set as per normal. The only extra parameters are Cisco specific AV-Pairs which are nothing to do with this discussion.

Think it's best if I stick you on ignore, I'll just get myself into trouble if we keep going down this route.

the leases is much longer than 7 days this is when i conenct directly to the modem, with ipcop box it 1 day i set ti at that for a reason

the guess bit was not a guess in the word guess but a guess becaus ei can not remembe rthe exact length but it was very long

[Zhadnost]

The lease here is 7 days.

dhcp-lease-time 604800;

604800 = 60x60x24x7 (number of seconds in 7 days).

AFAIK, it's always been like that.

The weird thing is, that the DHCP server doesn't fingerprint as running IOS.

Device type: general purpose
Running: Sun Solaris 8
OS details: Sun Solaris 8
Uptime 2.505 days (since Tue Sep 23 08:08:45 2008)

[Kymmy]

Just connect directly to your modem, open up a command window then type

IPCONFIG /ALL

That'll then tell you all the IP details including when the lease was issued and also what the expiry is

[Andrewcrawford23]

Originally Posted by Kymmy

Just connect directly to your modem, open up a command window then type

IPCONFIG /ALL

That'll then tell you all the IP details including when the lease was issued and also what the expiry is

when i done it last, for the assumetion of techincal support, it said lease was march 08 and expire was april 09 hence why i said about 300 days i dnt know why it was so long the lognes ti seen before that was 90 days. and yes it was a 82.* address broadbanding not my ipcop internal ip of 192.*

[Toto]

How do you connect directly to your modem, is it that you mean connect your PC directly to the modem (if you have a router)?

[Andrewcrawford23]

Originally Posted by Toto

How do you connect directly to your modem, is it that you mean connect your PC directly to the modem (if you have a router)?

When i say directly....

I mean i take the Ethernet cable from the cable modem and connect directly to the laptop Ethernet port and reboot the modem and get a new IP.

I am not trying to insult you or anything just makign sure i am clear on what i mean instead of my normal just rough unformatted non technical talk

[Toto]

Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23

When i say directly....

I mean i take the Ethernet cable from the cable modem and connect directly to the laptop Ethernet port and reboot the modem and get a new IP.

I am not trying to insult you or anything just makign sure i am clear on what i mean instead of my normal just rough unformatted non technical talk

Sorry, I was directing the question to Kymmy. I forgot to quote her post and yours slipped in before I finished my post.

[Andrewcrawford23]

Originally Posted by Toto

Sorry, I was directing the question to Kymmy. I forgot to quote her post and yours slipped in before I finished my post.

No problem

[Kymmy]

Originally Posted by Toto

Sorry, I was directing the question to Kymmy. I forgot to quote her post and yours slipped in before I finished my post.

Which one?? I have 2 going through a hardware firewall, 3 going through a router and one connected directly (well via a switch)

My IPconfig quote was just an example of how someone on windows can get thier lease date/time information (except on win9x then I think it used to be winipcfg)

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Zhadnost

The weird thing is, that the DHCP server doesn't fingerprint as running IOS.

Device type: general purpose
Running: Sun Solaris 8
OS details: Sun Solaris 8
Uptime 2.505 days (since Tue Sep 23 08:08:45 2008)

Hi Zhadnost.

It isn't running IOS.

Virgin use Cisco Network Registrar, and as CNR is a DHCP standards compliant server it has no relevance at all to DHCP leases anyway, these being set as per normal. The only extra parameters are Cisco specific AV-Pairs

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/coll...d803fc803.html

CNR is software, not hardware, and runs on Solaris et al, so that'll be why the box fingerprints as such.

---------- Post added at 20:42 ---------- Previous post was at 20:37 ----------

Originally Posted by Zhadnost

The lease here is 7 days.

dhcp-lease-time 604800;

604800 = 60x60x24x7 (number of seconds in 7 days).

AFAIK, it's always been like that.

Ya, it was at one point shorter than that on one of the networks but has since been standardised at a week.

Connection Established Time 2008/09/24 00:45:44
Lease Expiration Time 2008/10/01 00:45:44

[Andrewcrawford23]

Originally Posted by Broadbandings

Ya, it was at one point shorter than that on one of the networks but has since been standardised at a week.

Connection Established Time 2008/09/24 00:45:44
Lease Expiration Time 2008/10/01 00:45:44

i will enjoy your explanation of my lease starting at march 08 and expiring april 09

[Kymmy]

Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23

i will enjoy your explanation of my lease starting at march 08 and expiring april 09

misconfiguration of the DHCP in that area, what's your lease now as it's nowhere near March

[Andrewcrawford23]

Originally Posted by Kymmy

misconfiguration of the DHCP in that area, what's your lease now as it's nowhere near March

truthfully i dnt know i only connected to the windows maxchine to satify support it wasnt my netwokr that the problem was with, it now connect to my ipcop box and i aint going to log in to find out a ease time but i suspect yoru right about the error part, but still prove 7 days is not the only lease time