Sky Remove Fair Use Policy From Max Broadband
16-09-2008, 13:58
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Re: Sky Remove Fair Use Policy From Max Broadband
sky can afford to do so, first off when they got hold of easynet there was an aweful lot of spare capacity, from what I hear even with the customer count they got now there is still tons of spare capacity. A few areas have congested local VP's to the dslam but I believe it only to be a few.
The other difference is, sky are not bothered about making money on broadband, its simply a way for them to retain tv customers. They expect losses and are happy to subsidise it.
Sort of like asda's new payg package, it is the most competitive on the market, if its making a profit it will be small but it attracts people to their stores.
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16-09-2008, 14:27
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Re: Sky Remove Fair Use Policy From Max Broadband
As ths is Sky I think i'm going to wait and see what happens
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16-09-2008, 15:10
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Re: Sky Remove Fair Use Policy From Max Broadband
The main thing is they havent offical annouced this so I doubt they want a whole load of customers to know this
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16-09-2008, 15:27
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Re: Sky Remove Fair Use Policy From Max Broadband
Latest News box on
http://www.sky.com/portal/site/skycom/skyhelpcentre
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Unlimited Broadband-no fair use policy
September 2008
Unlimited Broadband-no fair use policy
Sky Broadband Max is the perfect choice if you like watching TV shows streamed straight to your computer, downloading films and music or online gaming. Unlike other broadband providers, we don’t have a fair use policy, so you never have to worry about how much you upload or download, or how long you spend online. See our Sky Broadband Max page for more information.
Don't forget that you get all these FREE with Sky Broadband:
· A wireless router (worth £50) for access around your home
· 12 months’ online protection with McAfee® Internet Security Suite
· Sky Email and Tools suite with 10 @Sky.com email addresses so you can keep in touch, store files, share your photos and organise your life online
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No doubt there will be something in the next magazine or advert run.
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16-09-2008, 19:38
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Re: Sky Remove Fair Use Policy From Max Broadband
Sky have apparently now joined VM as a 'truly unlimited ISP'
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16-09-2008, 20:25
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Re: Sky Remove Fair Use Policy From Max Broadband
No STM / shaping / throttling with Sky though
[Well, unless you have "Connect", in which case blame BT]
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16-09-2008, 21:59
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Re: Sky Remove Fair Use Policy From Max Broadband
Does anyone believe this [Sky's unlimited usage ] is **really** sustainable over the long term? I'm personally skepticle, but would be happy to be proven wrong.
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16-09-2008, 22:57
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Re: Sky Remove Fair Use Policy From Max Broadband
You only need to pay the 129 quid charge if the property has never had a bt line in ever, I had to get one as we moved to a new house 2 years back and there was nothing here, I thought if you did have to pay the 129 quid charge though that Sky would refund that money to you if you joined a certain package, not 100% sure but I thought it was on this forum somewhere.
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16-09-2008, 23:56
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Re: Sky Remove Fair Use Policy From Max Broadband
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Originally Posted by mikejones_uk
Does anyone believe this [Sky's unlimited usage ] is **really** sustainable over the long term? I'm personally skepticle, but would be happy to be proven wrong.
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Precisely; there's no such thing as unlimited, this is why I prefer plusnet for my ADSL who acknowledge this, provide fair limits and are up-front about it.
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17-09-2008, 01:04
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Re: Sky Remove Fair Use Policy From Max Broadband
You CAN have unlimited, just so long as not too many users are complete plonkers with it. There is a difference between "I don't want a limit" and "I'm going to hammer it like hell all the time".
The other mitigating factor for Sky, is that you have to have at least a minimum subscription package, so what they lose on the broadband, is made up to a degree on the TV service, as unlike Virginmedia, you cannot just have Sky broadband.
So it costs £27 per month, with 1 Sky mix and their top broadband (up to 16Mb, unlimited) - BT line required, and if the rental is still £10.50, that takes it to £37.50
Virgin XL Broadband with Phone line is £31 (ongoing price cheaper when taken with a phone line than without), but does not include Sky mix (even a single mix is more channels than TV:M, even if that does get thrown in - TV:M is essentially just freeview on cable)
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17-09-2008, 02:40
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Re: Sky Remove Fair Use Policy From Max Broadband
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Originally Posted by chickendippers
Precisely; there's no such thing as unlimited, this is why I prefer plusnet for my ADSL who acknowledge this, provide fair limits and are up-front about it.
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iirc Plusnet were one of the first ISP's to advertise unlimited, then when all the freeloaders went to them, they pulled it.
£39.99 a month with 2mb and all you could download, when I were with them.
Alas, now Plusnet will just say 'It was an error when we advertised unlimited'
Now Plusnet try to blind you with why you cannot have unlimited. On Sky MAX it is  and its cheaper than PN. - oh... and faster!
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17-09-2008, 09:47
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Re: Sky Remove Fair Use Policy From Max Broadband
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Originally Posted by NewsreadeR
Now Plusnet try to blind you with why you cannot have unlimited. On Sky MAX it is  and its cheaper than PN. - oh... and faster!
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Damn you and your unbundled exchange *shakes fist*
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17-09-2008, 11:02
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Re: Sky Remove Fair Use Policy From Max Broadband
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Originally Posted by NewsreadeR
iirc Plusnet were one of the first ISP's to advertise unlimited, then when all the freeloaders went to them, they pulled it.!
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Freeloaders??? Or just customers who want what was advertised???
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17-09-2008, 11:38
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Re: Sky Remove Fair Use Policy From Max Broadband
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Originally Posted by chickendippers
Precisely; there's no such thing as unlimited,
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We have Virgin Media to blame for that. they insisted that they were the only supplier to be unlimited but gave us STM. now Sky are saying this is what unlimited really means.
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17-09-2008, 14:45
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Re: Sky Remove Fair Use Policy From Max Broadband
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Originally Posted by Matth
You CAN have unlimited, just so long as not too many users are complete plonkers with it. There is a difference between "I don't want a limit" and "I'm going to hammer it like hell all the time".
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That is precisely the problem with advertising any connection as 'unlimited', people are going to hammer it like hell all the time because they can.
You can't start advertising something as unlimited, then be surprised when people use it as such!
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