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Old 06-09-2008, 22:42   #1
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20 Meg, what 20Meg?

Well, i have been with NTL since they started and have gone from dial up in the early days to 20Meg as it stands now. However, when i use all the speed test utils and websites i only seem to get around 7Meg.

Ok, so its now run by the bearded wonder, Branson, and failrplay to them, they upgraded my modem to the little diddy 255 model. But why oh why am i paying ffor 20 when i only get 7. Surely its not a conspiracy from Mr Gates as i run Vista? is the service throttled? Is it Vista? Is it too much porn that i download, or is it the mother in law? (no connection to Porn here)

Anyone with any suggestions? i live in the B77 Postcode.

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Downstream Receive Power Level : 6.8 dBmV
Downstream SNR : 36.3 dB
Upstream Symbol Rate : 2560 Ksym/sec
Upstream transmit Power Level : 30.3 dBmV
Upstream Mini-Slot Size : 4
Cable Modem : DOCSIS 1.0/1.1/2.0 Compliant
Boot Code Version : 3.1.6d
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Old 06-09-2008, 23:28   #2
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Re: 20 Meg, what 20Meg?



What model is your BEFSR41?

Earlier models only had a 10baseT WAN port - which would equate to the 7Mb/s you are getting, try the connection without the router ...
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Old 06-09-2008, 23:32   #3
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Re: 20 Meg, what 20Meg?

Erm, i think its a 10 base,

specification says IEEE 802.3 (10BaseT), IEEE 802.3u (100BaseTX)
is this the problem then, if so, what router do you recommend?

its not the Nvidia network controller is it thats on the Motherboard?
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Old 06-09-2008, 23:45   #4
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Erm, i think its a 10 base,

specification says IEEE 802.3 (10BaseT), IEEE 802.3u (100BaseTX)
is this the problem then, if so, what router do you recommend?
Yes, that is the problem, you will never get 20Mb/s through a 10baseT interface

- 'recommend' is probably the wrong term, as I try never to recommend anything I haven't used/tried, myself - personally I use a safecom SBRU-10100, which works, but I don't know if it is still available..

Many members of this forum use the later Linksys wireless routers, such as the WRT54GL

http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satel...=7724139789B04

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Old 07-09-2008, 00:39   #5
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Re: 20 Meg, what 20Meg?

I see the IEEE 802.3u (100BaseTX) as well though.

Is there any way to hard set the WAN port on the router to 100Mbit full duplex, and do the same to the modem?

Is the WAN port currently set at 100Mbit full duplex? If it is and the modem is set at auto-negotiate you will end up with 10BaseT.

Also Mr Branson is not involved in the running of Virgin Media in any way, shape or form. He's a 'figure head' and a major shareholder but that is all. He is not involved in the operations of the company and has no seat on the board.
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Old 07-09-2008, 00:55   #6
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I see the IEEE 802.3u (100BaseTX) as well though.

Is there any way to hard set the WAN port on the router to 100Mbit full duplex, and do the same to the modem?

Is the WAN port currently set at 100Mbit full duplex? If it is and the modem is set at auto-negotiate you will end up with 10BaseT.

Also Mr Branson is not involved in the running of Virgin Media in any way, shape or form. He's a 'figure head' and a major shareholder but that is all. He is not involved in the operations of the company and has no seat on the board.
didn't see the 100baseT

If so it may be worthwhile trying to set 100Mb half duplex for the WAN
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Old 07-09-2008, 13:31   #7
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Re: 20 Meg, what 20Meg?

thanks for the info, i unplugged the router and went straight from the modem, speedtest.net gave me double the speed i was getting than before, so i guess afterall it is the router. Cant see any settings in the router software to change anything, so i guess its a trip to PCWorld, as much as it pains me to do so.

Was thinking of the N1 belkin Wireless router.
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Old 07-09-2008, 14:02   #8
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Re: 20 Meg, what 20Meg?

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thanks for the info, i unplugged the router and went straight from the modem, speedtest.net gave me double the speed i was getting than before, so i guess afterall it is the router. Cant see any settings in the router software to change anything, so i guess its a trip to PCWorld, as much as it pains me to do so.

Was thinking of the N1 belkin Wireless router.
If the router is pants or just can't get along with the modem then yeah I guess you're stuck

Oddly mine is ages old but handles 20Mbit without any issues at all.
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Old 07-09-2008, 14:22   #9
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Re: 20 Meg, what 20Meg?

I too have been with blueyonder/NTL/Virgin since dial up days,and have progressed to 2 Meg which is sufficient for my needs, however recently having carried out checks via speedtest.net i realised that I am only getting 0.75Meg downoad speeds.According to Virgin I am being throttled/penalised for actually daring to use the 2 Meg speed (unlimited download)that I am paying for. So, in the very near future, goodbye Virgin for all my services,net, tv, phone. I am off to Sky. Hello Sky one and hello up to 16 Meg for the same money
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Old 07-09-2008, 17:46   #10
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Re: 20 Meg, what 20Meg?

Agghhh, so i bought a new router, and its made no differrence at all, so why when i use direct connection to the modem is everrything ok, but when i use a router does it throttle the speed back?
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Re: 20 Meg, what 20Meg?

Sounds like my intiial thought might have been right, it's a problem with the modem autonegotiating with the WAN port on the modem so it defaults down to 10Mbit half-duplex and gives the speeds you are seeing.

Hopefully someone can inform you how to check the modem and ensure it is doing autodetection properly.
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Old 07-09-2008, 18:40   #12
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Re: 20 Meg, what 20Meg?

try setting the pc conx to 100Mbit full duplex
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Re: 20 Meg, what 20Meg?

ok, and how do i do this?

thx for the responses by the way
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Re: 20 Meg, what 20Meg?

if your running xp open your local area conx goto properties, then configure, then advanced and look at linkspeed/duplex control, then apply
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Re: 20 Meg, what 20Meg?

Another usefull tip If you run Virgins PC Guard !! Turn OFF (ONLY IF BEHIND ANOTHER FIREWALL OR ROUTER FIREWALL ) the Firewall then run your speed test and notice the Difference. It appears that Virgin's PC Guard Throttles Speed down By up to 3 Mbs
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