05-08-2008, 10:08
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by madslug
When I visit the IP address, I am given a 301 redirect to the URL http://www.phorm.com/ - content length 309
The servers are giving me different times on their clocks, so my guess is that the actual site is hosted on the 2nd server, and in UK as per IP address.
www.phorm.com and webwise.bt.com are giving me clock times which suggest they are on the same server. |
If they had any clue about administering a web server* they would have them all synchronised using ntp. The error should be too small for you to detect remotely.
If the time reported by two sites is consistently a few seconds or more out you can safely assume they are separate servers. (Unless it's due to some funky proxying)
If the time reported by two sites is generally the same to within a second, it may or may not be the same server. It could be two servers both synchronised to the same ntp network or time scale.
*I know this is a big assumption.
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05-08-2008, 10:49
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#13292
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
9.48am Tuesday BT forum still out from here
Philj
going to drop a copy of the flyer off at my Doc's surgery this morning for him to look at
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05-08-2008, 11:21
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#13293
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
[QUOTE=philj;34615020]9.48am Tuesday BT forum still out from here
BT Forums appear to be back up & I didn't have to wade through treacle to get there?
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05-08-2008, 12:27
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#13294
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
BT are locking threads again on the forums, may be time to have a trawl through and see if they have been sanitising things and removing posts that are to near to the truth
copyright thread has been locked
peter
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05-08-2008, 13:47
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
That's hilarious!
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05-08-2008, 14:00
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by bluecar1
BT are locking threads again on the forums, may be time to have a trawl through and see if they have been sanitising things and removing posts that are to near to the truth
copyright thread has been locked
peter
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They haven't locked other threads but perhaps in time...
It beggars belief that they are so paranoid that they can't allow us to discuss copyright law.
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05-08-2008, 14:02
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by R Jones
They haven't locked other threads but perhaps in time...
It beggars belief that they are so paranoid that they can't allow us to discuss copyright law.
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seen my reply on BT?
bet i get no reply
peter
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05-08-2008, 14:15
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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05-08-2008, 14:31
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Azreal
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pity our gummy / toothless authorities / (supposed) regulators over here don't take a leaf out their stateside associates and start asking pointed questions of our ISP's and INSIST on INDEPENDANT PROOF not just nice polite boilerplate letters prepared for the ISP's by PHORM that skip over important facts and mis-represent what they are actually doing or plan to do with our private communications
peter
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05-08-2008, 14:32
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
I suggest that when this is over, and Phorm is a stinking pile of burning heap in the ground, we all show up at the ICO's office to demand his resignation.
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05-08-2008, 14:35
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Azreal
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In a similar vein:
http://www.mediapost.com/publication...&art_aid=87797
They've asked for a response by 8th Aug - That's this Friday!
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05-08-2008, 14:39
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Services: The wonders of Sky TV BT line and Aquiss.net ADSL cable dies on 5th RIP VM.
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by phormwatch
I suggest that when this is over, and Phorm is a stinking pile of burning heap in the ground, we all show up at the ICO's office to demand his resignation.
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Also BT's CEO for bringing the company name into shame. Noticed the finanace bloke at BT bought £100,000 shares in BT suppose he was trying to shure up the price now it is below 175p
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05-08-2008, 15:25
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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05-08-2008, 15:46
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by bluecar1
pity our gummy / toothless authorities / (supposed) regulators over here don't take a leaf out their stateside associates and start asking pointed questions of our ISP's and INSIST on INDEPENDANT PROOF not just nice polite boilerplate letters prepared for the ISP's by PHORM that skip over important facts and mis-represent what they are actually doing or plan to do with our private communications
peter
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Glad to see I'm not the only one who's disgusted by the trend these days in the UK to follow the US lead on all matters to do with justice and freedom. They're hardly a shining example, but civil rights in the US are beginning to make the UK look like the People's Republic of China.
The overall impression left by the UK government's action (or rather, inaction) on protecting our privacy and civil rights is that they are a bunch of cringing, cowardly, money-grabbing criminals who wait to see what the big boy on the block does before judging what they can get away with imposing on us. The sooner they're booted out, the better for all of us (and that's from someone who misguidedly voted for them in 1997).
Apologies to the mods for this off-topic rant.
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05-08-2008, 16:11
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by phormwatch
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I don't subscribe to that one so cannot see anything.
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