17-07-2008, 17:29
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Ahh thanks Deko my mistake ,should have checked dates lol as was bit surprised to see the link as i try to stay away from the webwise site as much as possible and only go in with the highest amount of protection as is technically possible as you never know which type of Russian flu you might pick up.
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17-07-2008, 17:30
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#11972
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
they need to correct the article it says
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The Information Commissioner's Office has cleared the system on condition that users are asked clearly to opt in or out of the service.
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Where as it should be opt-in no leway just opt-in with the option to opt-out if you change your mind.
@Azreal , welcome but that is the old Interim PIA.
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17-07-2008, 18:01
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#11973
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
From the link by rryles in computer weekly
http://www.computerweekly.com/Articl...ing-trials.htm
BT's plans to test an online advertising delivery service based on customers' use of the internet is likely to go ahead "within weeks" despite a protest at the telco's AGM yesterday.
BT Retail chief Gavin Patterson said he was thinking of publishing the results of market research that he said showed 96% of consumers were happy with the service
Guess he hasnt seen this one lol from the nodpi site
http://www.nma.co.uk/Articles/38754/...aten+ISPs.html
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17-07-2008, 18:07
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#11974
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by SMHarman
Strictly speaking, from a non technical understanding of the previous 800 pages and other things I have read while Safari is compatible, Safari screams and shouts and warns the user of all the 307 redirects going on (after all they could be phishing attacks) and makes Phormed browsing such an unpleasant and intrusive experience that Phorm decided to not intercept flow with x-safari or whatever it is in the browser description.
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Just tried the Windows version of Safari with a "simulation" of a triple 307 redirect via webwise.net, it didn't complain and happily accepted the webwise.net UID cookie.
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17-07-2008, 18:16
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#11975
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Not sure if this has been posted, but it seems the EC has decided that if the government doesn't act about Phorm, they will. They do not object to Phorm as such, but they *do* require it to be opt in, rather than opt out.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07...uk_over_phorm/
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17-07-2008, 18:25
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Privacy_Matters
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Confirmed. 
Can anyone confirm what the latest list of phorm domains and sub domains is now? I want to block (hosts) every one of their ******* sites if I can.
OB
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17-07-2008, 18:28
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#11977
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
i'm not seeing that problem if i type phorm.com i get www.phorm.com from work
Just tried from a NTL leased line (yeah i know) get www.phorm.com
Also tried from a plus.net adsl @ home I get www.phorm.com
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17-07-2008, 18:32
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#11978
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Location: Sale, Cheshire
Services: 10MB Broadband, DTV, Telephone
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Same here - is it only BT users who get bt.phorm.com?
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17-07-2008, 18:35
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#11979
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: There's no place like 127.0.0.1
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by JohnHorb
Same here - is it only BT users who get bt.phorm.com?
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Nope, I get that site on PlusNet.
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17-07-2008, 18:36
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#11980
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Location: Sale, Cheshire
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Hmm... must be something to do with both resolving to the same address - 89.145.112.32
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17-07-2008, 18:37
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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17-07-2008, 18:41
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Location: Poole, Dorset
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by JohnHorb
Hmm... must be something to do with both resolving to the same address - 89.145.112.32
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Wouldn't make any difference, you can have multiple different web sites at the same address just with different domain names!
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17-07-2008, 18:48
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#11983
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Join Date: Apr 2008
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Yup its called host header redirection methinks to allow multiple domains/sites on one IP.
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17-07-2008, 18:55
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Join Date: May 2008
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by OldBear
Confirmed.
Can anyone confirm what the latest list of phorm domains and sub domains is now? I want to block (hosts) every one of their ******* sites if I can.
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I also now see bt.phorm.com resolves to same IP as phorm.com
but in addition not sure how significant though:-
www.bt.phorm.net
bt.phorm.net
which resolves to 209.59.187.150 ????
---------- Post added at 17:55 ---------- Previous post was at 17:50 ----------
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Originally Posted by SelfProtection
I also now see bt.phorm.com resolves to same IP as phorm.com
but in addition not sure how significant though:-
www.bt.phorm.net
bt.phorm.net
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same as [phorm.net]
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17-07-2008, 18:57
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#11985
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
You all missed the really meaty result of the AGM protest which was the debate about the covert trials in HoL today!!!
http://www.publications.parliament.u...ldtoday/02.htm
BRAVO BARONESS MILLER AND EARL OF NORTHESK (PLUS VARIOUS OTHER PEERS).
Furthermore, HAPPY BIRTHDAY BARONESS MILLER!
Alexander Hanff
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