Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

[Dephormation]

Quick check of some of the co-hosted domains

webwise.bt.com, www.webwise.com, www.phorm.com, all down

Also the 'cookie serving' domain a.webwise.net, I'm seeing nothing in response to ping.

Curious. Perhaps they don't want BT shareholders to see?

I wonder if the USA 'mirror' site (in PSInet) is still here.

[Privacy_Matters]

Originally Posted by Dephormation

Quick check of some of the co-hosted domains

webwise.bt.com, www.webwise.com, www.phorm.com, all down

Also the 'cookie serving' domain a.webwise.net, I'm seeing nothing in response to ping.

Curious. Perhaps they don't want BT shareholders to see?

I wonder if the USA 'mirror' site (in PSInet) is still here.

Another 121Media/Phorm re-branding exercise, maybe?

[tdadyslexia]

Originally Posted by jtechs

same, but I was thinking raid by ICO/Police..

Now that would make my Day.

[Privacy_Matters]

They're back

[Rchivist]

Originally Posted by Privacy_Matters

They're back

And they're better - they're more glitzy - they've got more spin!
And they've got logos on again - well - 2 anyway, TalkTalk and BT.
It's a relaunch?

Now does this mean that the ISP's have given Kent the go ahead to put their logos back, or is he doing what he's done before - paddling his own canoe and hoping the ISP's will swim along in his rather turbulent PR wake?

Second - I got my first new poster on BT Beta Forums as a result of all your efforts yesterday. She's furious!! (with BT, not you lot!)

Third - as predicted yesterdays late sales coming through - £700K's worth at 714.55p, well below what the small purchases were yesterday and today.

[Privacy_Matters]

I think theres been a change to the Source on webwise.bt.com, anyone confirm this?

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anomaly 2:

Just typed phorm.com, and it loaded as http://bt.phorm.com/

[Rchivist]

Originally Posted by Privacy_Matters

I think theres been a change to the Source on webwise.bt.com, anyone confirm this?

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anomaly 2:

Just typed phorm.com, and it loaded as http://bt.phorm.com/

Did you mean WHOIS and hosting etc. ?

Here's my results

webwise.bt.com resolves to IP 89.145.112.32

That has WHOIS of

% Information related to '89.145.112.0 - 89.145.113.255'

inetnum: 89.145.112.0 - 89.145.113.255
netname: G-CUS-PH02
descr: Phorm IPv4 Assignment
country: GB
admin-c: GAT1-RIPE
tech-c: GAT1-RIPE
status: ASSIGNED PA
mnt-by: GYRON-MNT
mnt-lower: GYRON-MNT
mnt-routes: GYRON-MNT
source: RIPE # Filtered

role: Gyron Admin Team
address: Gyron Internet Ltd
address: 6 Greenwich View Place
address: Millharbour
address: LONDON
address: E14 9NN
phone: +44 (0) 845 888 6900
fax-no: +44 (0) 845 888 6910
abuse-mailbox: abuse@gyron.net
admin-c: RB30-RIPE
tech-c: RB30-RIPE
tech-c: OB924-RIPE
tech-c: BPM1-RIPE
nic-hdl: GAT1-RIPE
remarks: Please use this contact in preference to any others
remarks: that may be listed in the RIPE database
source: RIPE # Filtered

% Information related to '89.145.64.0/18AS29017'

route: 89.145.64.0/18
descr: GYRON-AGG Gyron Internet Ltd AS29017
origin: AS29017
mnt-by: GYRON-MNT
source: RIPE # Filtered

************

and for bt.phorm.com - same IP as webwise.bt.com and the WHOIS on bt.phorm.com is

Administrative Contact:

Cote, Chris chris.cote@phorm.com

Phorm, Inc.

264 W. 40th St., 16th Floor

New York, New York 10018

United States

2123592030 Fax --



Technical Contact:

Clark, Allan allan.clark@phorm.com

Phorm, Inc

264 W40 Street

16th Floor

New York, New York 10018

United States

2123592030 Fax --



Domain servers in listed order:

NS1.PHORM.COM

NS2.PHORM.COM

NS3.PHORM.COM

NS4.PHORM.COM

NS5.PHORM.COM

NS6.PHORM.COM

When I put phorm.com in my browser, I get sent to http://www.phorm.com/ and not to bt.phorm.com

[rryles]

So they took the servers off line to update the content? Very professional

The advertising sub-domain site doesn't look too pretty either:

http://advertising.phorm.com/

edit: Seems to be a problem with firefox - possibly related to caching of style sheets or something similar.

[Privacy_Matters]

Warning!!! Do not follow the actions below unless you are an IT Professional with the relevant experience. The site that the actions will lead to may compromise your PC.

Right guys, I have found a blog belonging to the Phorm Comms Team. For those in the know, type blog.phorm.com into robtex - you will notice that the IP is one of Phorms.

Visiting http://blog.phorm.com is not an issue. However, visiting by IP flags a serious security alert with Norton.

(To mods: The site is in the public domain - and this is not given bad advice, on the contrary it is alerting users to a potential risk, which may be nothing knowing norton)

[JackSon]

Originally Posted by R Jones

Second - I got my first new poster on BT Beta Forums as a result of all your efforts yesterday. She's furious!! (with BT, not you lot!)

In terms of giving share holders an education on the subject that is a massive vindication, well done!

[Deko]

The PIA has been finished I understand, will it be published now ?

[rryles]

Originally Posted by tarka

BT to begin further trials of ad technology

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/34c59420-5...077b07658.html

"Carphone Warehouse’s Talk Talk and Virgin Media have also run trials."

A misinformed journalist perhaps or is there more to it?

"Gavin Patterson, head of BT Retail, told the group’s annual general meeting that customers would again have to opt-in for the service." (my bold emphasis)

Isn't this more deliberate misinformation? The previous trials were not opt in... they didn't even have an opt out!

Now slightly closer to being correct:

"Carphone Warehouse’s Talk Talk and Virgin Media have also agreed to evaluate the service but are yet to run trials."

What about the print edition though? I suspect the original version may have had something to do with todays share price rise.

Originally Posted by Deko

The PIA has been finished I understand, will it be published now ?

Baroness Miller thinks it should be published on the Phorm site in the near future... no show so far.

[JackSon]

Perhaps they tried to upload the PIA earlier but the webserver couldn't handle that much bad news which caused it to crash.

[SelfProtection]

Originally Posted by rryles

Now corrected:

"Carphone Warehouse’s Talk Talk and Virgin Media have also agreed to evaluate the service but are yet to run trials."

What about the print edition though? I suspect the original version may have had something to do with todays share price rise.

The Article in question has still "NOT" been corrected properly the last paragraph states the ICO cleared then of wrong doing (effectively the 2006-2007 trial)
This is not true ICO said "technical breach".
ICO doesn't have enough power to prosecute is the real reason!