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popper · 10-07-2008, 01:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff

No this is in Vista. I didn't even try it in Linux as there is literally no way it would work due to the proprietry nature of the product.

Alexander Hanff

yeah there is, NDISWrapper might work with the windows driver perhaps....

you do run linux as your main OS now dont you, or did i read you wrong ?

its confirmed that Linux needs a driver for it before you can read the .wav off these Olympus (VN-480PC, or whatever model you have ?) digital voice recorders.
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http://readlist.com/lists/suse.com/s.../10/51930.html

sure, NDISWrapper is normally for windows network drivers, but it should also work for these too, is there an an xp driver or perhaps better, a seperate NT for it,that might work best in NDISWrapper OC.
http://www.linux.com/articles/40365

lol,chairman asks NebuAd CEO" isnt that just wiretapping" 1hour in, he must have taken lessons with emma

we dont.. erm er ... im not a lawyer...

AlexanderHanff · 10-07-2008, 02:18

Sadly they don't work either, in fact they are identical to the drivers that came with the device.

Alexander Hanff

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Quote:

Originally Posted by popper

yeah there is, NDISWrapper might work with the windows driver perhaps....

you do run linux as your main OS now dont you, or did i read you wrong ?

its confirmed that Linux needs a driver for it before you can read the .wav off these Olympus (VN-480PC, or whatever model you have ?) digital voice recorders.
.
http://readlist.com/lists/suse.com/s.../10/51930.html

sure, NDISWrapper is normally for windows network drivers, but it should also work for these too, is there an an xp driver or pehaps better a seperate NT for it,that might work best in NDISWrapper OC.
http://www.linux.com/articles/40365

lol,charman asks NebuAd CEO" isnt that just wiretapping" 1hour in

Actually I currently don't have Linux installed on this machine due to a kernel issues which broke my DVDRW drive in the latest Ubuntu updates. I simply don't have the time to fix it myself with everything going so I made a temporary jump to Vista. But yes ordinarily Linux is my core environment and has been for many many (more than most I expect) years. I suffer windows at the moment purely because of this Phorm campaign.

Alexander Hanff

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Well I just had a listen to the recording (headphones plugged into the voice recorder) from start to finish (1h56m worth of audio). Sadly there is a great deal of background noise which was totally unavoidable, however the conversation can still be heard if people are willing to ignore the background noise. I have a friend who is a sound engineer so if I can get in touch with him in time I can see if he can clean it up (although he is difficult to get hold of nowadays). If anyone is competent at cleaning up audio, please feel free to have a play with the file once I upload if you manage to make any improvements I will replace the original with the cleaner version.

Alexander Hanff

popper · 10-07-2008, 02:23

thats a shame, theres always the option of booting Slax for a quick liveCD to keep you going

add any modules you like OC, and put it on a USB stick as a temp and portable thing...

http://www.slax.org/forum.php?

you should get your head down for a bit anyway after your long day

Tharrick · 10-07-2008, 02:31

You should be careful when you stick it up on the internet. Remember what happened to the unofficial meeting videos? :P

10-07-2008, 02:48

I'll have a go at cleaning the sound up - I have some pretty decent audio apps to play with. (I'm a musician in one of my secret identities)

AlexanderHanff · 10-07-2008, 02:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter N

I'll have a go at cleaning the sound up - I have some pretty decent audio apps to play with. (I'm a musician in one of my secret identities)

I am in the process of installing VMWare Server to throw XP on so I will see if that works with regards grabbing the file from the recorder and then get back to you.

Alexander Hanff

popper · 10-07-2008, 03:17

i forgot the simplest things, yea VMserver might work, but http://www.virtualbox.org/ is probably better if not as you can auto assign any USB2 stick or device to that exclusive use, so should work fine for that audio if you have an XP handy to throw on there.

hang on MS let you download a IE6 windows image too i seem to remember, someone here mentioned it i think... so you might not even need to do a virtual CD Image install.

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http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en

its a VPC image though and i cant remember if that does USB2
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro.../overview.mspx

Rchivist · 10-07-2008, 09:43

Google finance page for phorm shares - now only shows two news items (since yesterday) and one of them is Alex's article, May 20th, the other is April 17th, "UK advertising-tech fight shows complexity of privacy battle".

The vertical list of months on the left all show (0) articles except those two months for this year.

Yesterday there were loads of articles.

If I "view all news" there are still only those 2 articles.

What happened to all the others? I have it set to show ALL NEWS.
Can anyone check please?
Why would news articles suddenly disappear?
Of course it leaves Alex's article as 50% of the news coverage on Phorm which can't be a bad thing.

This is the link I have.
http://finance.google.com/finance?q=LON:PHRM

One of the missing Google news items (still on LSE page) is the 500,000 share pledge that Kent made as security for a loan, on 27th July 2007.

I've been keeping an eye on that - here's the math about the value of that pledge.

500,000 shares pledged as security by Kent, for a loan on 27th July 2008 - value on google on that date 2612.5 = Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£13,062,500

Value of those shares today = Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£3,750,000

Shortfall compared with date shares were pledged as security = Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£9,312,500

Portly_Giraffe · 10-07-2008, 09:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by R Jones

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Can anyone check please?
...
This is the link I have.
http://finance.google.com/finance?q=LON:PHRM
...

Same with me - just two news stories.

bluecar1 · 10-07-2008, 10:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Portly_Giraffe

Same with me - just two news stories.

followed a couple of links and got to https://commerce.us.reuters.com/purc...&search=PHOR.L

the report is dated 8/7/08 strange day after that the shares took a dive, not sure if related

but it does say report is produced weekly, but this week we have had all the nebuad stuff so wondering if that was factored into the report and gave it a more negative slant

peter

Dephormation · 10-07-2008, 10:49

From the BT AGM web site, for anyone who can't make it to London, or people protesting outside with a wireless IP link;

Webcast
The AGM will be webcast live over the internet for those who are unable to attend in person. View the test webcast to check your system is capable of viewing the broadcast.

There's also an induction loop which might allow someone with the right radio receiver kit to pick up a signal perhaps?

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bluecar1 · 10-07-2008, 10:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dephormation

From the BT AGM web site, for anyone who can't make it to London, or people protesting outside with a wireless IP link;

Webcast
The AGM will be webcast live over the internet for those who are unable to attend in person. View the test webcast to check your system is capable of viewing the broadcast.

There's also an induction loop which might allow someone with the right radio kit to pick up a signal perhaps?

questions and voting not going to be webcast only speeches

no mention of the demo either (i wonder why)

peter

davethejag · 10-07-2008, 11:56

Hi All, I have received a "reply" to the letter that I sent to David Cameron recently ref. the Phorm/BT issue. It looks like someone from Mr Cameron's team has e-mailed BT and I have been forwarded a print-out of the reply which was from Lawrence Vousden, Public Affairs Manager. It is full of the spin and usual stuff that we have been reading about from them for months. It is not worth me trying to get it into a post but the e-mail finishes up by saying that "Furthermore, BT is commited to providing it's customers with a choice as to whether they want this as a service or not; going forward - it will be optional. Sould you have any questions or concerns, please contact me on telephone number [Moderator Edit]".

I have just seen this below -

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...yone-else.html

Dave.

[Moderator Edit (Rob M): Unless specific permission has been given to publish contact details on this forum please do not do so - thank you]

vicz · 10-07-2008, 12:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dephormation

From the BT AGM web site, for anyone who can't make it to London, or people protesting outside with a wireless IP link;

Webcast
The AGM will be webcast live over the internet for those who are unable to attend in person. View the test webcast to check your system is capable of viewing the broadcast.

...]

Hmmm Windows only it seems...

10-07-2008, 12:26

The privacy implications of DPI and Behavioural Targeting at a ISP level are so obvious an issue that the lack of interest shown by the major political parties in the UK is extremely suspect.

This is now a global issue. If the US place or enforce restrictions on DPI and data interception as a result of the Senate Committee's hearings we could find ourselves in a situation where the UK is effectively isolated from the WWW because our internet system could be deemed unsafe for American users. The knock-on effects of this don't bear thinking about.

Quite why there is so little input or interest from Whitehall is a matter of opinion and mine is that BT has agreed to allow access to the DPI equipment for covert surveillence by government and the authorities in return for them turning a blind eye to the illegal trials and the commercial use of this system.