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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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				Not far off with that.  Mobile phone profiling with word recognition has already been proposed and GPS tracking is already being trialled and it's been used to spot peoples shopping habits for a "study". 
 
Cars are being tracked when they move around cities and RFID tags are already being built-in to some purchases to track the movements of purchasers. 
 
One company has developed an RFID so small that thousands of them can be sprayed onto a car mixed in with the normal paint so that the car can be tracked. 
 
As you might expect, all of these modern wonders are being promoted as safety and security enhancing. 
			
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 The people behind all that have 666 birth marks and are very very paranoid and in need of help.  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-07-2008, 18:35
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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				Not far off with that. Mobile phone profiling with word recognition has already been proposed and GPS tracking is already being trialled and it's been used to spot peoples shopping habits for a "study". 
...snippety snip snip.....  
As you might expect, all of these modern wonders are being promoted as safety and security enhancing. 
			
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			08-07-2008, 18:44
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			Couldn't resist this one - the perils of 'more relevant' advertising:  http://i28.tinypic.com/2z4dav4.jpg
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-07-2008, 19:34
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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				Be encouraged - one or two BT employees beginning to turn up on BT Beta forums BT Webwise thread - which they are allowed to browse at work (not allowed on non BT sites) - including call centre employees. 
			
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 I'm sorry to have to say I 'phorm'ed you this evening. I was reading the BT Beta webwise pages and I came across some text I had not read before and after a few sentences, instinctively, I had the thought this must be you. Sure enough the I glanced to the left and the name matched. 
 
It really does work this cross database pattern matching. There can be no privacy in Phorm world.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-07-2008, 19:51
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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				An idea just occurred to me. Currently, if you put your details into the form below, I've got a script which writes a basic complaint letter to post to your MP... 
http://www.dephormation.org.uk/letters/
I could probably do something similar for a  Data Protection Act Section 11 instruction to a given telco data controller (eg, enter your name, address, select telco from a drop down list BT/Virgin/TalkTalk, click generate, and print).
 
Can anyone oblige with the data controller name and address details for BT/Virgin/TalkTalk?
 
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 Data Protection Manager,  
Box 17,  
BT Centre,  
81 Newgate Street,  
London.  
EC1A 7AJ
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				I'm sorry to have to say I 'phorm'ed you this evening. I was reading the BT Beta webwise pages and I came across some text I had not read before and after a few sentences, instinctively, I had the thought this must be you. Sure enough the I glanced to the left and the name matched.  
 
It really does work this cross database pattern matching. There can be no privacy in Phorm world. 
			
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			08-07-2008, 21:46
			
			
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				OH  NO! -  HOW DID YOU DO THAT?!!
  
			
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 I am not too sure. I suspect it was either your eloquent grammar or your sarcastic witty references to BT that could have given the game away it was you.
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 Done,  BT Webwise information
 
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I really liked this site's word possibly for the likes of Phorm and NebuAd.
 Malvertising
Check it out. They say:- 
"An Internet-based criminal method for the installation of unwanted or malicious software through the use of Internet advertising media networks and exchanges."
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-07-2008, 22:04
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  Dephormation
					 
				 
				An idea just occurred to me. Currently, if you put your details into the form below, I've got a script which writes a basic complaint letter to post to your MP... 
 
http://www.dephormation.org.uk/letters/
 
I could probably do something similar for a  Data Protection Act Section 11 instruction to a given telco data controller (eg, enter your name, address, select telco from a drop down list BT/Virgin/TalkTalk, click generate, and print).
  
Can anyone oblige with the data controller name and address details for BT/Virgin/TalkTalk?
  
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 i see BC1's replyed but, thats what that link at the bottom of every post i make is for   
 
http://www.ico.gov.uk/ESDWebPages/Search.asp?EC=1
its a shame they dont show any Fax machine No.s or we could do it that way.... LOL, i had to giggle when i went looking for free fax services available on the web.
 
 http://askbobrankin.com/send_a_free_fax.html
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 Free Internet Faxing... Really?
 
Yes, it's really free.  The service is supported by advertising on the cover page of the free faxes you send. That seems like a small "price" to pay for sending a free fax. 
  
You don't have to buy a fax machine, fax software, fax supplies, get a fax line, or pay long distance phone charges. And typically the cover page is mostly blank anyway. Why not fill it up with something useful? 
  
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do you think VM,BT,CPW, and the ICO would like this 'NoDPI' targeted advertising on all the "Official Notice" faxes they get   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-07-2008, 22:13
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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				Popper dont do it there is people who do not understand Irony ;P 
			
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 but i thought that was the whole idea of BT WebWise, allowing the ISP to reduce the cost to the customer for the broadband service or allow the ISP to invest in decent backbone kit?
 
we are just reducing our costs to lodge complaints to the ICO and reducing carbon footprint as well due to no transport miles   
peter   
ps i am sure the adverts will be relevant as well if enough people use the service   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-07-2008, 23:11
			
			
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				but i thought that was the whole idea of BT WebWise, allowing the ISP to reduce the cost to the customer for the broadband service or allow the ISP to invest in decent backbone kit? 
we are just reducing our costs to lodge complaints to the ICO and reducing carbon footprint as well due to no transport miles   
peter   
ps i am sure the adverts will be relevant as well if enough people use the service    
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			a little light reading to pass the time  
http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2...low-up-report/
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 Personal Internet Security: follow-up report
July 8th, 2008 at 13:05 UTC by  Richard Clayton 
The House of Lords Science and Technology Committee have just completed a follow-up inquiry into “Personal Internet Security”, and  their report is published here. 
  
Once again I have acted as their specialist adviser, and once again I’m under no obligation to endorse the Committee’s conclusions —
  
 but they have once again produced a useful report with sound conclusions, so I’m very happy to promote it! 
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The Members of the Science and Technology Committee are: 
Lord Broers (co-opted) 
Lord Colwyn 
Lord Crickhowell 
Earl of Erroll (co-opted) 
Lord Haskel 
Lord Howie of Troon 
Lord Krebs 
Lord May of Oxford 
Lord Methuen 
Earl of Northesk 
Lord O’Neill of Clackmannan 
Lord Patel 
Earl of Selborne 
Lord Sutherland of Houndwood (Chairman) 
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			what would be causing this  
Problems locating content style. Please check region content item styles 
 
Problems locating content style. Please check region content item styles 
 
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on a web site i visit never seen it before and no option to do as it says either.?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				what would be causing this  
Problems locating content style. Please check region content item styles 
 
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on a web site i visit never seen it before and no option to do as it says either.? 
			
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 URL? I/we can check it out...
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Personal Internet Security: Follow-up : 
Earl of Northesk 
"There is another issue here which I find absolutely fascinating, which is the knotty problem of Phorm. A number of aggrieved subscribers think that an offence has been committed with their particular Internet services purely and simply because BT conducted trials secretly. However, I happen to know that a number of these aggrieved subscribers have hawked themselves around, Home Office, the Information Commissioner, law enforcement, and been given the brush-off time and time again. What are the Government actually going to do in terms of providing the relevant resources and expertise out there so that action can actually be taken against e-crime?"
 
and the end result. I think they are going to get a proper police e-crime unit  
Phorm - I think you may get burned
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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