Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

[popper]

Originally Posted by SimonHickling

Thanks for that popper. I'll certainly mention it.

in case you didnt see it, i edited my post to remind readers about the stanford RIPA conviction for interception of (copyright protected) Emails.

copyright was not required in the case to get the crimiinal conviction, but non the less copyright for profit is also a criminal act without consent etc... so it all ties in for our purposes probably.

its always good to let any officials know we know about these existing case law to help them realise we dont want this interception for profit or allowing them to monetise our data property without giving us our fees for the use of our property.

if copyrights good enough for the ISPs to use and kick suspected infringers for non profit use, then its also good enough for the end users and website owners to use and kick them back when they do it for commercial Piracy for profit.

Originally Posted by HamsterWheel

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7482991.stm

need for Webwise is ever-increasing.

I'm quite happy with my spam filters thank you.The one provided by VM is more than adequate and the one with Gmail is spectacularly successful.I do not need my privacy invaded to protect me from spam.I have already paid to protect my PC from viral infections,adware,spyware etc without compromising my personal info.Indeed they are being used to protect my personal info.I cannot be sure that webwise or Phorm will be doing that.

[AlexanderHanff]

That was actually very helpful Dave, I just got off the phone with their Secretary and hopefully I will be able to meet some representatives next week when I am in London to address any concerns they may have. Also the Secretary was fully aware of who Phorm are so it is nice to know that public awareness is on the rise.

So thanks for that info.

Alexander Hanff

[rryles]

Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff

I really need a way to let local residents know so as to avoid any chance of confrontation with the local community.

Post leaflets through their doors? How many are close enough for it to be a potential issue?

[HamsterWheel]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

the one with Gmail is spectacularly successful.

Very strange that you like Gmail and yet don't like Phorm ?! Gmail much dodgier on the privacy angles.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/04..._evil_privacy/

[AlexanderHanff]

Originally Posted by rryles

Post leaflets through their doors? How many are close enough for it to be a potential issue?

The area is surrounded by about 2000 residents some of which work from home. Unfortunately I have a medical condition which would make it impossible for me to do a leaflet drop, but hopefully the Barbican Association can make the residents aware of the situation.

Alexander Hanff

[Privacy_Matters]

Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff

I am in discussions with the police but at the moment there are no "issues" to resolve, they made it clear that it is perfectly acceptable to hold the protest and is in fact our right to do so.

I have explained that it will be a peaceful protest but there will be speeches between noon and 2pm using a mobile PA, they didn't have any issues with that but warned me that in their experience they tend to get a few people complaining from local residences when protests are held (which is why I want to get word out to the local community in advance).

So everything with the police is very positive at the moment, I expect at the meeting we will discuss a minimal police presence to ensure there are no problems. They were encouraged by the fact that we have already discussed the protest with Barbican Security too.

Alexander Hanff

Ok - ask the Police and Local Borough for permission to wrap A4 Notices (in polly pockets) around Lampposts in the area. I know its a bit of work, but I think (the borough should clarify) this will indemnify you.

[Wildie]

want to know a secret hammy, my email box has never been spammed in all the years I have had it, never any junk emails at all and i am with bt and i never see ad`s on web sites either funny that, as for phishing don`t happen either, now phorm want to undo all that protection i already have and spam my screen with the very stuff we avoid and never see.

owell back to work, speaking of work keep it up Alex you doing a great job.

Originally Posted by HamsterWheel

Very strange that you like Gmail and yet don't like Phorm ?! Gmail much dodgier on the privacy angles.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/04..._evil_privacy/

They still can't get the access to my personal info that Phorm can and I agreed to Google's terms when I signed up..I have yet to be asked by my ISP if I wish to be Phormed.Strangly enough while using Gmail I haven't suffered one bit of identity fraud or had any security issues...

[rryles]

Originally Posted by HamsterWheel

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7482991.stm

need for Webwise is ever-increasing.

The article confuses different issues. Surfing with phishing protection such as that offered by webwise (and any decent browser) doesn't stop you getting spam and phishing e-mails. It just stops you from going to the urls they link to. The best way to reduce the spam you get is not to give your address out freely. Make sure it never appears on any webpage and preferably don't have something easily guessable.

Personally I have a custom mail server and use a unique address for everything I sign up to. In over a year of use only 1 address has been compromised and that resulted in 2 phishing e-mails before I blocked the address. I didn't even read the phishing e-mails. They purported to be from banks that I don't have accounts with and my bank doesn't know my e-mail address anyway.

For those less tech-savvy peeps, spam gourmet provide a similar service for free

Originally Posted by HamsterWheel

Very strange that you like Gmail and yet don't like Phorm ?! Gmail much dodgier on the privacy angles.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/04..._evil_privacy/

Check the date on that article - April 2004

Why not just say that Phorm are not as bad as the KGB and use that as a defence.

By the way...

How on Earth do you reckon that Webwise will do anything to reduce or prevent spam? Do you actually have any idea what you are talking about or what it is you are defending?

You do know that we are discussing Phorm and Webwise don't you cos your random postings are rather bizarre and mostly unrelated to this topic.

[serial]

Great to see everything coming together for the protest, should be a fun day

[rryles]

Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff

The area is surrounded by about 2000 residents some of which work from home. Unfortunately I have a medical condition which would make it impossible for me to do a leaflet drop, but hopefully the Barbican Association can make the residents aware of the situation.

Alexander Hanff

Didn't realise it was that many. The Barbican Association sounds like a much better idea.

[popper]

Originally Posted by HamsterWheel

Very strange that you like Gmail and yet don't like Phorm ?! Gmail much dodgier on the privacy angles.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/04..._evil_privacy/

if as you say, these non Deep Packet Inspection ISP installing companys are dodgier, feel free to start another non DPI thread about it , fill it with tech details ,laws broken, etc.

and we can all add it to the list of growing companies practices to also deal with after the Phorm storm....

[Privacy_Matters]

Originally Posted by popper

if as you say, these non Deep Packet Inspection ISP installing companys are dodgier, feel free to start another non DPI thread about it , fill it with tech details ,laws broken, etc.

and we can all add it to the list of growing companies practices to also deal with after the Phorm storm....

I agree

Hamsterwheel - the thread topic and description here is clear. If you have issues with other services, start a new thread concerning your issues, and if we choose to - we will contribute.