27-06-2008, 15:28
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Phormic Acid
Very good. You might want to use these bits to make it an even closer match.
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Thank you will do!
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27-06-2008, 15:36
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by bluecar1
gnilddif,
you need to be careful about the selling of data,
if you read what they do they do not sell the data as they own (it is gifted to them by phorm) the dpi kit and adserver, they get a share of the revenue from the adverts served, subtle difference i know but they can simply argue they do not sell the data and ignore point 2
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You're right Peter, careless of me. Thanks. But they should still clarify that to customers in order to satisfy the new trading regulations.
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27-06-2008, 15:57
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by SelfProtection
Don't forget that these images are trademarks/Copyright Images. So it should be made obvious somewhere on the final image that this was the intended Webwise startup page as opposed to any actual page.
Don't want to be threatened by BT again do we.
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Thank you for that, added to bottom: This was the intended Webwise startup page from BT, all trademarks belong to there respected owner.
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27-06-2008, 16:09
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by SelfProtection
Don't forget that these images are trademarks/Copyright Images. So it should be made obvious somewhere on the final image that this was the intended Webwise startup page as opposed to any actual page.
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I don’t think a criminal will have such scruples. On the warty edifice that is Webwise is one small phishing-protection wart, which is, unless Phorm are prepare to hand the whole task to a security company, almost certainly going to fall short. Webwise itself will provide one more social-engineering technique for would-be phishers. UK Internet users will start treating page diversions to other sites as normal. What happens if a phishing website notices the presence of a Webwise cookie and serves up a page similar to that in the figure below.
I’m hoping the Webwise invitation page used in any trial will be served over a secure connection using the new EV SSL and will make it clear how customers can differentiate between a genuine Webwise page hi-jack and one that is a phishing page.
Fig.: How a phishing website might take advantage of Webwise’s use of interstitial pages.
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27-06-2008, 16:19
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
OT BR:
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...e-built-deceit
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DNA database built on deceit
Innocent people swept up in inquisitorial fervour
By Mark Ballard: Friday, 27 June 2008, 1:52 PM
THE UK GOVERNMENT has justified keeping the details of innocent people on the National DNA Database with shameless propaganda, according to a report by Genewatch.
The campaign group tackled claims repeated by Prime Munster Gordon Brown for retaining the DNA records of people picked up by the police but not charged with any offence, just in case they really do commit a crime one day.
This was not merely another reminder that the retention of innocent people's DNA threatens to replace the principle that all people are innocent until proven guilty, with the malodorous mantra that some people are more suspicious than others, we just can't prove that they are yet: it was a thorough shredding of the arguments used by the government and security hawks for the retention of innocent people's DNA
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27-06-2008, 16:20
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Phormic Acid
I don’t think a criminal will have such scruples. On the warty edifice that is Webwise is one small phishing-protection wart, which is, unless Phorm are prepare to hand the whole task to a security company, almost certainly going to fall short. Webwise itself will provide one more social-engineering technique for would-be phishers. UK Internet users will start treating page diversions to other sites as normal. What happens if a phishing website notices the presence of a Webwise cookie and serves up:
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EDIT: Original Post Quoted from ammended to add text: Fig.: How a phishing website might take advantage of Webwise’s use of interstitial pages.
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27-06-2008, 16:47
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Privacy_Matters
Disclaimer??? maybe you should add one to protect yourself here? ...
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Ok, I’ve hopefully made it clearer, by giving the figure a title. Now you just need to amend the quote in your post to contain one.
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27-06-2008, 17:00
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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27-06-2008, 17:18
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by popper
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Interestingly, it was dated today, but had
"Copyright Haymarket Business Publications Ltd. Mar 26, 2008"
at the bottom, which ties in with the Tim BL interview "this week".?
Odd.
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27-06-2008, 17:29
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by popper
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Spin, Spin and more Spin.
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27-06-2008, 17:40
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by davethejag
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Unless they come from BT that is..
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27-06-2008, 18:19
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by HamsterWheel
Anyone see the footy last night ? 
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Love him or hate him, this is funny
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27-06-2008, 19:30
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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27-06-2008, 20:28
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Phormic Acid
I don’t think a criminal will have such scruples. On the warty edifice that is Webwise is one small phishing-protection wart, which is, unless Phorm are prepare to hand the whole task to a security company, almost certainly going to fall short. Webwise itself will provide one more social-engineering technique for would-be phishers. UK Internet users will start treating page diversions to other sites as normal. What happens if a phishing website notices the presence of a Webwise cookie and serves up a page similar to that in the figure below.
I’m hoping the Webwise invitation page used in any trial will be served over a secure connection using the new EV SSL and will make it clear how customers can differentiate between a genuine Webwise page hi-jack and one that is a phishing page.
Fig.: How a phishing website might take advantage of Webwise’s use of interstitial pages.
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I don't think anyone is going to fall for that phishing scam! Everyone knows that Phorm have already read all your bank details, credit card, financial transactions.
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